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  1. You expect me to believe 1.8 Billion with a "B" muslims are driven into homocidal/suicidal mania by 6.3 million with an "M" Israeli's who are living on a land smaller than New Jersey and its our fault? For comparison purpose that is like taking the people living in the city of Arlington, Texas and comparing it to the entire United States total population. Your lucky they didn't throw your jerk out of school with your logic??? If the words Israel or Jew never existed, we would still be in this position.

    Since where are there 1.8 billion muslims that are radical. This is actually comical. The radical population in the ARAB countries (there is a difference between an Arab and a Muslim) is actually not as big as people believe it is. Most of these radical groups are just small factions that do all the dirty work. I dont care how many Jewish people came to the Middle East during the 1940's through the 1970's. They came and took over houses belonging to Palestinians and took their land. Do you want someone from a different country coming to your house and taking it from you and then living in it? I think not. I dont know what kind of smart ass remark that is about my logic but it seems to be a little more logical than what you are trying to say.

  2. We have been involved in conflicts pretty much solid for the last 200 years. 10 years? Hell we built the airbases I say we stay. Which I think we will. Notice were still in Korea. Look at the Philipeenes. They thought they wanted us to leave. Look what happened when we did. I am all for what you aare saying. I truely wish it was that way. But what you want and the way it is are two different things. Until the world:

    1. Becomes bigger

    2. We blow ourselves off it

    3. Practice true isolationalism under total draconian rule

    Thats the way it will stay. Not to be harsh but people die. Some for good reasons, some for bad. That cycle is not going away. Here is my biggest beef.

    WE ARE AN ALL VOLUNTEER MILITARY. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DYING CHOOSE THEIR CAREER. ITS NOT LIKE OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE YOU HAVE TO SERVE.

    Simply put and true. We cant leave. We need at least 10 years to establish a stable government and be sure they can control the country. Saddam was actually pretty good at controlling his own country and kept the "terrorists" out. He himself did this through brutal dictation but its better than communism, right? Anyways, I dont like the war as much as the next person and I think its sad that our men have to die over there. Chuck does have a point though, these men and women chose to join the military and knew that they would have to fight for their country if need be. I dont really understand why people make a huge fuss over some soldiers dieing. Thats what happens in war. Be happy we arent like Iran and send human wave attacks into Iraq and kill (a combined total between the two countries) over 1 million men. Obviously Iraq doesnt have a military anymore and the only thing that is stopping peace are extremist groups that dont like the US in the country. Hell, I wouldnt want another country in my town either, but they think we are evil, thats just the what they were taught. If you got screwed by us a couple times, you would think the same thing too.

    Anyways, we need to stay there for the long run. We are committed now and if we leave this one unfinished, we are going to have to become fully isolated because other countries will not take us seriously anymore.

  3. Well when i came upon the the statement "the situation is more a result of our policy in the Arab - Israli conflict" I felt it was rediculous and really doesen't explain much of anything and has little bearing on the iraq situation. I still have about 75 pages left so I am trying not to make up my mind until then but there are some things i definately don't like, but some i do.

    Well what do you know about the Arab-Israeli conflict as of right now? I just had to write an essay about the US and Middle East relations dating back to 1945 so I know SOME things but not all. I cant say I got an A on that final either.

    Basically everything we fight for in the Middle East today is because we supported Israel and the UK during the middle of the century. Israel was not welcome in the Arab community and we supported their return so the Arab nations in turn didnt like us very much.

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