Pops Racer

Not true. I lived in Washington State for most my life, so by her definitions of "experience" Washington State is the closest state to Alaska, thus I have lots of knowledge about the happenings in Alaska, thus I know a lot about her.

No politician is 100% legit, but she isn't even close ... if you compare Biden and Palin in terms of who would best run the country if their superior could not, I really dont think many, if anyobdy at all, would choose her over Biden.

The luster of her nomination is wearing off and people are realizing she really has 3 boobs, two on her chest and one in between her ears.

I have no idea what you are trying to get at here.

No one was sent into abject poverty, you can stand to live under a Republican. The Mexico reference is to the tolerance of the border war, La Razza, and other org, that want to annex parts of the SW back into Mexico.

I thought Washington was part of Canadia ?

ignorant

Ignorant? At least he can speak the language. You'd think hard working immigrants would learn that just so they can read their paychecks to see if the Anglo boss did not rip him off.

Germans speak better english than most of us here.

" Bobby, you failed english! Bobby, you speak english!" :lol:

i know WTF

the aliens need to learn english already.

this is our country...

This is certainly true. My Grandpa told me the first thing his father did when he got here from the Ukraine was to learn english.

Not the point of the post, however.

From an Email I received.

How many zeros in a billion?

This is not funny as Congress is about to spend 700 billion!

The next time you hear a politician use the

word 'billion' in a casual manner, think about

whether you want the 'politicians' spending

YOUR tax money.

A billion is a difficult number to comprehend,

but one advertising agency did a good job of

putting that figure into some perspective in

one of it's releases.

A. A billion seconds ago it was 1959.

B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.

C. A billion hours ago our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.

D. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth.

E. A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20 minutes, at the rate our government is spending it.

While this thought is still fresh in our brain...

let's take a look at New Orleans ....

It's amazing what you can learn with some simple division.

Louisiana Senator,

Mary Landrieu (D)

is presently asking Congress for

250 BILLION DOLLARS

to rebuild New Orleans Interesting number...

what does it mean?

A.

Well... if you are one of the 484,674 residents of New Orleans

(every man, woman, and child)

you each get $516,528.

B.

Or... if you have one of the 188,251 homes in

New Orleans , your home gets $1,329,787.

C.

Or... if you are a family of four...

your family gets $2,066,012.

Washington , D. C

HELLO!

Are all your calculators broken??

Accounts Receivable Tax

Building Permit Tax

CDL License Tax

Cigarette Tax

Corporate Income Tax

Dog License Tax

Federal Income Tax

Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)

Fishing License Tax

Food License Tax

Fuel Permit Tax

Gasoline Tax

Hunting License Tax

Inheritance Tax

Inventory Tax

IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)

IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

Liquor Tax

Luxury Tax

Marriage License Tax

Medicare Tax

Property Tax

Real Estate Tax

Service charge taxes

Social Security Tax

Road Usage Tax (Truckers)

Sales Taxes

Recreational Vehicle Tax

School Tax

State Income Tax

State Unemploy ment Tax (SUTA)

Telephone Federal Excise Tax

Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax

Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax

Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax

Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax

Telephone State and Local Tax

Telephone Usage Charge Tax

Utility Tax

Vehicle License Registration Tax

Vehicle Sales Tax

Watercraft Registration Tax

Well Permit Tax

Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago...

and our nation was the most prosperous in the world.

We had absolutely no national debt....

We had the largest middle class in the world...

and Mom could stay home to raise the kids.

What happened?

Can you spell 'politicians!'

And I still have to

press '1'

for English.

I hope this goes around the

USA

at least 100 times

What the heck happened?????

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Thanks a lot Zappo. I'm in the military and I keep wondering why my homie, Dave, an advocate for military violence (for power), isn't in the military. Rome was a powerful military state.......but that's all they knew. There is only so far military push-over can take you and I for once am more concerned by a well organized Al-Quieda killing 3000ppl (in the strongest country in the world) than U.S's military tactics.

I'm new to the political game, done some research, but of all the 4 candidates, Palin seems to be the worst of them all. Americans don't want to do researches, they want to skim thru the latest news. Seeing Palin on those interviews deters me from even thinking about researching about her. She was elected for political strategies.....to help breath life into the republican party and help recruit the women; help recruit the many pitbulls with lipsticks out there. I hope she does well in the debate....just so the presidential race doesn't go on so easily for the Dems.

Unfortunately Krato, thats true of most Americans. Then they get the govt they deserve. I would think as member of the Armed Forces you would want to know as much as possible about an individual that could send you into harms way. It's sound bites and gotchas. If we rely on mainstream media outlets we will never know whats up. Only by asking questions and doing some research are you doing the voting process any justice. Whomever you vote for now whats what.

So, you are saying the problem started with Jimmy? Ronny and George Sr. didn't fix it on the way?

I have no idea who Keith Olberman is.

You conveniently left out Bubba Clinton. In 1992 he also was involved in softening regs for underqualified borrowers by insisting that welfare and unemployment compensation be counted as income when calculating debt ratio.

Olberman is a former ESPN anchor who specializes in propaganda, and mostly O'Reilly bashing (head to head O'Reilly crushes him), for the left on MS-NBC. Not really surprised that you don't know who he is. They are easily at the bottom of the ratings table, maybe less than 100K people watch the channel let alone him.

I mad a ton of money under Reagan, and bought my house and got educated on the G.I. Bill. Did ok under Bubba too. Actually, he's not looking too bad now! They were all making cash and getting cheap mortgages under them, why would they check the process?

How much power do you people really think the President has? Nothing gets done unless Congress and Senate say OK. Thats called checks and balances, and prevents Prez from acting like a king or dictator. Basic civics. If the Prez has to micro manage the financial industry, don't you think thats a distraction? Look at it with out 20-20 hindsight.

Relax Mr. CLETUS, curb the curse words for they speak lowly of your character

I take that back, McCain is no war criminal.....I meant to say POW.

With all due respect, can you count how many radical muslims are out there? I practice Islam (you can send the Feds to get me later) and I it is a religion of peace. For you to generalize all muslims as radical is plainly close-minded, Sir. What Ahmedinejad says does not reflect what other muslims think; I hope U get that straight. He may rant on how much he hate Israel or wants to kill all non-muslims but he knows he can never try implementing such. Ooh, if I remember correctly, radical Christianity is what decimated Africa....and created U.S.A. - think about that. Al-Queida attacked in 2001 killing 3000+; tell me when last they killed so many ppl before that time? and do you not wonder that they might be planning a bigger attack in a few months to come? The Iraqi war has killed 4200 soldiers....and destroyed 10,000 American lives while Al-Queida grows stronger. Any gains to the American public? I guess as long as U lost no one in the war, it's okay.

El Director, I may be slightly ignorant in politics (still learning unbiasedly) but I know $1 from Mac is as much a sin as $100,000 from Mac. Also I do believe 4-6 of McCain's advisors are all lobbyists - look that up. Politics is dirty and Obama might be dirty too BUT considering the past 8yrs, I'll rather vote for a change in dirty politics than settle for the same of what I've experienced.

I never generalized about all Muslims. I clearly referred to RADICALS. I'm not sure you understood that either. Big difference between War Criminal and Prisoner of War. I'm sure a bigger attack is planned. Whats more disturbing is that reasonable peace loving Muslims and their leaders don't speak up or fight back against the facists that have hijacked your religion. The silence speaks volumes of approval. Gains? I can sleep at night. Al-Queida grows stronger? Their using children in Iraq as homicide bombers and foot soldiers. Thats a desperate bunch. They are a persistent minority, destined to be marginalized, and any state that supports them will remain the same. Did they really think 2 buildings and 3000 murders would bring this country down? They'll have to kill all of us first. If you see such injustice why do you not got to the Crescent and fight for your cause? Why do you stay in this evil country? The world bashes us all day long, but line up on our shores to live here and enjoy our open society, the benefits of our Constitution, and the stability of our Govt. The US was created out of the desire for freedom of religion. Remember the Ottoman Empire and the Crusades. Compile all the bombings in Indonesia and Bali, Kobar Towers, Madrid trains, London. Cowardly acts against civilians, not a war fought by soldiers. How about the Muslim leaders and war lords in Africa, Sudan and Somalia. How many civilians have been starved and butchered?

They usurp the power of God on Earth. They think they can interpret what the Lord wants and how He wants it carried out. To presume you know what God wants by mortal men is blasphemy. And hypocritical. I guess no one is innocent, huh?

America sucks, let me in, give me a job, and a free education, and feed me. Then I'll do all I can to tear her down. I hope you enjoy the freedoms here, and that includes your right to say what you say. And I will continue to defend your right to do so, with blood if need be. I grant you one get out of jail free card for your gaff about POW's- War criminals.

Did you take debating lessons from Sarah Palin?

Your being very trite. You know nothing about her other than what you see on CNN or MSNBC. She's a real person not a toy doll or a dumb blond. Find me a politician who you think is 100% You can't do it. Biden is a boob, she has boobs. I'm going with the mammaries. Bush ran your state and you still live there. Until Mexico takes over.

You really need to stop watching Fox News. You are the one living in his own delusional little world.

I agree with Jake. Deregulation caused the Wall Street issues, and that is all Republican doing. Clinton didn't start the wars we are currently in, Bush did. All of Bush's failure were caused by him and his administration; had nothing at all do to with any president that came before him. Bush is the one who appointed all these unqualified people to government positions and when they fail it brings GW down.

Did you pay attention to the Dems like Franks and Dodd, screaming at banks to let unqualified folks borrow in 2003-2004? Ever heard of the Community Reinvestment Act, Enacted in 1977 under Carters watch? Don't be so short sighted, do some research.

They strong armed banks to lend to less than qualified candidates, claiming racism and other class warfare tactics-that was not any presidents doing.

Google ACORN. Get the whole picture. This is getting very repetitive. Folks need to get more than there side of the story. It's laughable that Barney and Chris are presiding over this debacle. If your buried in Keith Olbermans lap you should get Hannities side too. Be fare or stay out of the debate.

If they used the airline banckruptcy plan only the investors in those companies would be hurt. This bill will hurt all the taxpayers.

1. ......might not be able to implement his plans thanks to the crippled economy, overseen by the republicans for the past 8yrs

2..........what happened to you been patriotic? - An American extending his love (taxes) for another American ; but yet you're willing to lavish money on wars displacing/killing other ppl.

Can we (for the benefit of doubt) see if a new system might work, rather than bashing Obama b4 he takes office? If anything thing, Bush (8yrs ago) had a better credibility than McCain and Obama, yet look at the state of the u.s. Obama did take money from Freddie and Fannie........SO DID McCAIN, Mr. Cletus. His advisors are also very questionable

Also the fact that McCain knew many names of foreign leaders (big shots) means not he has a better foreign policy. Please ppl, the fact that he was a war criminal doesn't mean he can run foreign relations either. McCain seems more of a non-diplomatic war advocate. What is wrong with sitting down with Ahmadinejad as opposed by McCain? Is the u.s. better than Iran that they be treated like brats? Be careful what you ask for america, I'd go for change (democrats) than more of the same (republicans) AND if the Dems fail or make things worse, then ROME was destined to fall. I'm glad ACORN was exposed b4 the elections and I hope justice prevails against them.

Personally, I think Obama as president will be on so much pressure (due to circumstances) that he'll try evrything possible to make the u.s better; that's my flimsy guess - I culd be wrong.

....Today I go with the polls Dave; it says Obama won the debate

Who's the war criminal? You better be real fucking careful who you pin that label on!

You forget the whole tenet of the radical Muslim. If it takes a 1000 yrs they want non Muslims dead. Or converted. Your talking about politics and they are taking about God and martyrdom.They all talked in Oslo with Arafat, he assured all that he wanted peace with Israel, then went in front of his cohorts and swore to drive the Israelis into the sea. You need to get a grip on radical Islam. Your syntax leads me to believe you are not a naturalized US citizen. I apologize if I am incorrect, just curious as to your citizenship.

Hopefully this crisis will keep spending and bullshit taxes under control. This may be the tipping point that sends US Gov back to were it belongs, on the sidelines while the folks fix it.

Iraq and Afghanistan = no attacks on US soil in 7 yrs. As far as I'm concerend, Bush did his job. The rest is icing.

Sean meet Joe-JOe meet Sean.

hahah. don't sweat it sean. this is just normal Joe stuff. everybody just ignores him. hahaha.

HArHAr. I know Mike, I never try to take injurnet correspondence too seriously, tho I fail at that often . How about he gives a lesson so we can learn something instead of chastising folks so often? Seriously.

I can't even begin to tell you how flawed your analysis is. But I will agree that Pelosi is the dumbest cunt on Earth and needs to fall into a wood-chipper.

Regardless of the catastrophic blood-bath on Wall St. today, the investing long and/or holding equities over night model is gone, and has been for the last 6 months. Your money is at risk if you are holding a position and walk away from a monitor showing a real-time tick-by-tick quote. Day-trading is the only way to make money in this environment. Buy purely on technical analysis that second. Wait for a small gain. Sell. Repeat. Need to take a piss? Close your positions and piss in comfort sitting on cash, knowing it wont be worth 5-10-15% less when you come back.

Compounding small gains daily is the only way to go.

Ok, explain to me oh-annointed one, my flawed analysis. Bad loans got approved and bought, folks defaulted and the paper was worthless. Jeez your arrogant, all the time. You should try some humility.

It might have gone thru had Pelosi kept her fat fucking mouth shut. They hadn't even voted yet and she threw Bush under the bus again. She forgot that Dodd and Franks were screaming for "affordable housing " for the poor unwashed masses 5 yrs ago. Dumb cunt. The Dems got scared that McCain would get some kind of credit for the save. Don't blame Republicans, 95 out of 235 Dems voted no.

I'm glad it did not go. The folks said no and they listened for once. 51% of investors hated this.

You got no business taking a loan on speculation, thats what happened. "I'll get this shaky loan, and when my house goes up exponentially in price, I'll refi and be all set". Oops. Greedy cockers okayed these loans on the same premise. Just because you can do something doesnt mean you should. Why should I pay for bad judgement? And greed?

Let 'em fry Mikey, let 'em fry. I got no job, and no money in the market to speak of, make the pigs pay. I almost get the Bolsheviks now.

777 is largest points drop. Not even a top ten drop in percentage points. Relax. They'll work it out. I'm planting a Victory garden so I can eat.

It's more fun to read about Cheney, the cost-plus system, KBR-Halliburton, other contractors, the conditions they keep troops in and the money they charge for it and their other money making schemes in Iraq (like burning trucks with flat tires instead of fixing them because if they lease a new one for 6 grand a month the government compensates them more). I'm all scandalled out War is fascinating, Wall Street leeches are boring.

Bigger govt = bigger fraud and waste. Obama and Bush are big govt types, you got what you ask for.

Franklin Raines, Clinton appointed former head of Fannie Mae, Obama campaign advisor. Directly involved in the plan to provide"affordable housing" for less than qualified "borrowers". Also complicit? Barney Franks, and Chris Dodd, heading the hearings, what a joke.

Former Fannie Mae chairman, Jim Johnson, headed Obama's VP search team. He resigned because of his involvement in the collapse.

Obama has taken $126,349 from Freddie and Fannie, second highest in the Senate, next to, and no surprise here, Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd.

If you really want to get ill, check into an organization called ACORN. Being investigated in voter registration fraud (Democrats?), and possible collusion in "affordable housing" loans to high risk borrowers. Tax payer subsidized too boot.

No change, just different tactics we don't recognize.

Thats a lot more substantial then a smirk on a, mans face.

Homer the Bounty Hunter!!!!

Hahahahaa. I love that freekin show. I find I'm getting bored with this campaign now. They should start running on Oct 1st. They should be in the Senate working for their pay. The 2 of them spent $94 million on ads last month. 2 to 1 Obama. I might add. He taalks a good game, then takes all the cash he can get anyway, just like th rest of them. Change my ass. At least I know what I'm going to get with McCain. I don' trust Obama and the side of the Democrartic party he hangs with. I take his association with Ayers and Wright seriously. The remnants of the 60's radicalls that fought against the Establishment are now the Establishment. Left over anarchists, atheists and race mongers. Now are the lawyers, accountants, and politicians. And soon to be the overseers of the asylum.

Another one bites the dust!!! Just say no to WaMu!!

Nice rally today. No deal reached by polls on bailout tonight. Could be a dive in market tomorrow due to jitters.

I forgot what we were talking about!! :P

And this is why i prefer the way NH does it. State reps get $1 a year and a senate vanity plate. Change comes more slowly, but it's less reactionary. Any time you make money a motivation for doing good it pollutes the pool. When the motivation is no longer money-in-hand, you're there because you want to be, not for monetary gain.

The 9/11 fund is a horrid example of reactive policy... so much money was donated in the weeks following the attack that it overwhelmed the system and it didnt always get out to those who needed it. The worst part is, that even tho there's a huge amount of $$, they arent giving it out as fast as they should. There are millions for college education for the children of victims that haven't been dispersed.

While i have the utmost repect for anyone willing to join the troops and fight for the rest of us (seriously, lord knows i couldn't do it), y'all are crazy if you thing the govt is going to do anything for you after you're done.

Step 1 is either stop paying pols, or put MASSIVE restrictions on any private commercial ventures.

Charles posted earlier about some of the Govt's financial obligations to Military Personel.

All I know from what my Dad tells me is that if he dies my Mom, Sister and I will never have to work again.

I'd much rather have my Dad around though. Who else will I email daily with life's questions?

I'm jealous of your relationship with your Pops. Really, thats excellent.

Rich people are awesome.

BTW I invested in Merilll Lynch, AIG, Goldman Sachs, and Lehmans Bros ... and lost all my money, but poor people will still give me money anyways, rich people are awesome.

Bad investing on your part, you should have diversified more, too many of the same profile. Of course your being facetious, but my point nulls that.

I got no money so I win.

J0E are you part of the...

Dave, you're messed up :lol:

Obviously Joe plays on a different economic field than most of us here. Keep investing Joe, your money keeps folks in jobs. Don't forget to spend some once in a while. :D

""""Stocks end sharply higher on report that government will create entity to hold banks' debt """

this is god damn bullshit. eehhh eeeeh my business is loosing money. hey uncle sam bail me out.

dave, joe is richest, most unproven guy on here.

I agree Mike. The problem is that dead weight has been piling up, no culling of the weak has been allowed periodically. So when a big event occurs the weak sisters all fall at the same time, avalanche style. Then bailout is inevitable to just hold the market itself up.

Barney Frank, head of banking commitee, basically screamed social/economic discrimination because low income less qualified borrowers were being kept out of the American Dream.