matt1122

Yeah I saw that point coming before you even made it what I didn't know about was that quoted event Charles posted. I do actually understand why they have them now. ;)

Yup, pretty much.

That sounds like a grand idea, but I don't think they should enforce traffic laws! :ph34r:

Don't know about that. What did a Buddhist ever do to you?

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One word: FAT

So where's the proof?    hilarious.  It's Israel BTW.  Maybe you'll learn that next semester?

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When people are ignorant no one wants to waste their time proving anything.

So, there are other people with permits who can escort them! :P

who is gonna pay for that? you have just now doubled your inspection staff.

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I know is not sensible, but I don't have to be because I don't have any say in this kind of stuf!

Besides, haven't you caught on? It's no longer "in" to tell the people where the money will come from.

I still think a marshall escort or such would be far superior to giving them federal permits.

:lol: Internets.

George Bush is like that friend who always says something wrong and doesn't catch himself. Makes you slap yourself on the forhead and think "there go another 250 votes from stupid people who can't actually comprehend the issues so they vote based upon the presidents ability to pronounce nuclear and recognize that generally people say "the internet." (Despite the fact that there is more than one Network, which is why some do refer to it as the internets despite the fact that the internet is the composition of those networks.)

Bush countered that Kerry was making wild accusations without knowing the facts.

Enough said. Add you to the list of people making wild accusations based upon media stuff when even if you had the facts you wouldn't know what the hel was going on.

So? Giving them guns is f*ing stupid, what they need is escort, not their own weapons, what?

Doug's right, terrorists insult their claimed religions by saying they are doing what they do for religious causes. The real reason they do it is because (a) they are nuts ( they weren't hugged enough when they were little and © they are so pathetic already they have nothing left to lose.

oh stfu

Why the hell do Meat Inspectors need guns in the first place?

Point: A soldier in Iraq has about an equal chance of being murdered to anyone in chicago or detroit.

Meat inspectors can carry guns on planes?

If you're telling me so and so can carry a gun on a plane I want to see it in writing, otherwise I assume its just an assumption you're making.

I'm saying that right now being in on an airplane is like being in another country in that aspect, and I like it and think its the best way - and generally I don't think I've ever been on a plane with anyone who had a gun on them, good or bad. It's easier to hide a gun in DC from the cops than it is in your suitcase from an x-ray machine and metal detector.

Okay, but the bad guys can't carry at all, so no one has to worry about carrying. Kind of like in Canada - people don't feel the need for guns so much because its INCREDIBLY unlikely that they are going to encounter one since they can't be legally owned.

Okay, I don't think this discussion can go anywhere, but I do want to demonstrate how fact check isn't as reliable as you think it is -

YES, they showed that the people saying Kerry LIED to get his medals were not completely believable and some people said it was the truth - but that wasn't the true issue - fact of the matter is Kerry whined over VERY minor injuries to get those medals, THAT is an act of cowardice, much worse than lying in my opinion if you are running for the position of commander in chief. Fact Check doesn't even touch on the middle ground - they disprove the extreme point of view - that Kerry lied - and ignore the middle ground which is where the real issue is - the fact that Kerry whined and begged and harassed his COs to get the recommendations for the medal and so on and so forth. I wish I had time to go back through everything I've found that pushes this fact, but I don't - if you search heavily on the matter you will come upon plenty of support for this.

Just like wth the lumber company incident they proved the bare facts - Kerry did not lie.

Lumber Company incident - they left out the fact that Bush doesn't control his own funds, didn't know he owned the stock in the lumber company and also that the lumber company stock was the result of owning a share in an oil company.

This incident - they leave out the accusation that Kerry exagerrated and whined and begged to get those medals for things not medal worthy.

They don't follow through on the issue, just on the facts, and it can be misleading.

IMHO I think that everybody that boards and airplane should be allowed to carry a concealed firearm.

You scare me.

Yes, I know what Fact Check is, and the reason Fact Check is not the most reliable source is because ANYTHING can be proven true or false regardless of what the truth really is if you try hard enough - you can't get more flawed than that.

No, I don't think seeing your best friend killed due to Bush's monkey-ups is a valid reason to vote against him because blaming it on Bush is foolish. What I was pointing out, though, was that you essentially said that 1/4 of the people you have talked to's best friends were all killed as a result of Bush's monkey-ups.

It's not "innocent people" I'm worried about. I realize that a bullethole "supposedly" couldn't cause too much trouble, but all those movies where someone shoots and the little hole causes the plane to go down make me uncomfortable. Besides, a tripple dose of tazer action is more than enough and its more fun to boot.

I think if they are properly trained we will all be alright. I think I'd actually feel safer if they holstered them in their belts once in the cockpit though. I don't particularly like projectile weapons on planes though, maybe they should all cary daikatanas instead.

It was the first post I wonder about.

Fact Check may get the facts straight but it is definitely biased, sorry to say. I wish people would stop looking to it as a reliable unbiased source. Then again, it's better than my Macro prof. who thought "Mother Jones" was unbiased and "pretty reliable."

kids are idiots...

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Unfortunately the majority of voting adults aren't much smarter.

That explains why the numbers are so misleading.

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sometimes I put nader in just for fun.

they actually ask the political questions and the demographic questions on every single poll right at the beginning, regardless of the actual survey topic, so sometimes I get tired of paying attention and click around hoping I hit something sensible.