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  10. Us Assault Weapon Ban **read First**

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    Maybe the sarcasm was lost on me. Just didn't what is already at 45 page circular argument get any worse. Seemed like you were digging at him, without really making any points.WTF? This has so many angles to it... And seems to boil down to "because that's the way we've always done it".

    Are you saying you're fine with being a violent country then? Because I think many of the gun-change advocates agree we're a violent country and would like to see that changed, or controlled by removing the devices used to kill. And wouldn't you agree that fighting against an oppressive government is a little different than shooting people in the streets over an argument, or drugs, etc? I just don't see how the number of wars we have started really impacts much within our own culture unless you're trying to say that kids grow up with our government's military practices as a role model?

    Many of the countries you're referring to have extremely violent histories.

    I'm saying it is the way it is. I am a fan of universal healthcare, and I would love it if we adopted that. But there is no realistic way that the country is going to allow that much change to go from the system we have now to the universal healthcare system. The same applies to guns. All the reforms people are calling for are steps 5 and 6 when we as a country are still at step 0 or 1. I do agree that fighting against an oppressive government is different than shooting someone in the street, but if we go in somewhere where we really have no business being (Vietnam, Afghanistan (prior to 9/11)), what does that say to the idiots who are shooting people in the street?

  11. Us Assault Weapon Ban **read First**

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    Total deaths is 11th of 75... and most of the countries above it are shitholes. Many first world countries are dramatically lower on that list. You go on to suggest that you feel safer because you can have a gun. Yet your shitty statistics indicate we are on the higher end of per capita murders of the 75 in that list. Except we also have some of the highest rates of gun ownership. How's that work?

    Your post is almost entirely worthless, and this post and your previous one are getting pretty personal and patronizing.

    I agree that his post was a little worthless, but the "most first world countries have less gun violence" than america is a little bit horseshit. What most people don't realize is that we are a generally violent country, and that's the way it is. We got our independence by fighting our way out. We have started more wars than other countries (50s-till today). We are just a generally violent country.

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