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Commander Riker

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  1. Okay Mr Korruption, I've got to get my ducks in a row for work any way....

    lol. Please note my painfully obvious troll face.

    I've had to just say stupid things that anti-gun people say for my own humorous reasons. It's about all I can input into this discussion without pointing out how the gun debate is a symptom of a larger problem.

    People say our constitution, especially with the 2nd amendment, is outdated. The thing is, the government has evolved into a monster, by which now terribly conflicts with the ideals that the constitution were set forth with.

    Basically... it's too far beyond repair, IMO. Done subscribing to any hope in the matter.

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  2. I understand many middle and high schools had guards where you guys went. Obviously, you didn't seem affected by the metal detectors, and maybe I'm looking too much into this.

    At first glance... I felt putting guards in elementary schools was overkill. However... when I try to think about my years in elementary... yeah... all gone.

  3. most of the ""better public"" schools in my area have had upgraded security for awhile now.

    kids can only enter one door.

    security present at doors, teachers present.

    bus's only allowed in front of school. all parent drop off are in a different area also with guards'

    after school starts, all door are locked. you are greeted at outside front door by a parent volunteer, you then get buzzed and must go straight to office to check in.

    the have numerous guards, unarmed. but they are patrolling, and ever present.

    my wife and the teachers i'm intimate with, are wholly against armed guards and against armed teachers.

    my FIL was a 35yr teacher and in the service. He also would not ever bring a weapon into a school.

    schools will be a soft target even with a machine gun guards at door. all i need to do is go steal a school bus, fill with it boom boom, drive up to front doors. just saying.

    I agree, actually. No one should have guns in schools... except for maybe those like our SRO, who is armed and on one campus sometimes.

    Now tasers in the hands of correctly trained persons, I'm more ok with... though it still does pose it's risks.

    I dunno... call me old school... but I don't remember cowering in a dark room with my class while a buzzer blared it's racket incessantly. Then again, we did have fire drills, I suppose.

  4. I have worked pretty much every type of job in education. Believe it or not, its actually about money, insurance, and risk. The cost of the extra security is far less than the costs associated with insurance payouts for a school being found responsible for the death of a child, or harm done by physical, emotional, or sexual abuse.

    The safety of having things that reduce perceived risks (metals detectors, armed LEOs, magnetic locks, ID badges, training, video systems, windows on doors) lower insurance premiums for private schools and school districts.

    The RFID badges are also about money, not security. Public schools are paid by attendance per day, so the RFID makes it really easy to count how many students are in the building.

    If someone REALLY wanted to charge into a school and starting shooting, there is not much that is going to stop them if they are determined.

    Very interesting. I completely believe that money would probably be the root of the responses... with the children's safety in mind too, of course. Not sure if this is a valid question, but does school violence in the news drive up insurance premiums??

    What, if any, affect do you think the increased security measures have on the psyche of the student, and or the faculty? That's primarily what concerns me.

  5. "the implication that the problems today are due to a "lack of god in schools" is rather insulting." - That's not the implication at all actually. Reread the quote.

    Taking religion out of the equation I'm mostly concerned with the abandonment of morals. And, as you said, "Religion has many good morals in their story books"

    I'm still involved in eduction but it's the education of soldiers so it's not really fair for me to speak on public school items directly. From my perspective I CAN say that the quality of young soldiers coming out of our public educational system is shockingly poor. I shouldn't have to work so hard to get them to understand things they already are supposed to.

    You missed the part about morals exist without religion.... oh and how this is related to security. ^_^

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  6. Religion has many good morals in their story books. However, we can have good morals without religion. Schools are a place where all students come from multiple backgrounds to learn, and while I'm not opposed to them learning about the aspects of a religion or related good moral values, the implication that the problems today are due to a "lack of god in schools" is rather insulting.

    Learning is not equal to indoctrination.

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  7. I was just curious if there are any other members on the forums that work in education. Noticing a scary trend in this country in regards to "safety and schools." Today, I witnessed an intruder drill that was more like a prison lockdown.

    In light of recent, yet somewhat ongoing school violence, I wanted to get the opinions of others who may also work in the field and what they thought would help. It ranges for different schools... some have nothing... some have Officers and/or metal detectors, etc. One school here in Texas even has RFID badges that the students are required to wear.

    Overly, I'm saddened that we have to think like this in today's age... about the security of innocent kids from deranged persons. This isn't a pro/anti gun thread. Militarizing our schools I think is going to have a negative psychological affect on the young ones, and ultimately on society. Thoughts?

  8. Eh, you have to have an enclosed environment with specific conditions for Zimbardo's findings to be relevant. You're stretching on this one Lucas to apply it to the broader world.

    It may be a stretch. I was generally talking about the "authoritarian complex" that rises in people. It happens regardless the size of environment, and having a gun on one's hip, I'm willing to bet, would re-inforce these kinds of influences.

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  9. Well, I almost think it would be more, there is no correlation between CCW state vs NON-CCW state in gun violence. I mean look at Texas compared to Chicago. Derp :-/

    Chicago is such a cesspool.

    And yes, a City vs a State

    Well... having lived here... I have to say, it's not a fair comparison. However, there's an interesting comparison I'd like to make. Houston has guns and has crime. Chicago has guns, and has crime. Do gun laws influence gun crime?? Certainly, but it's a slight influence IMO rather than no influence or total influence. Often, gun laws have their biggest affect on law abiding citizens.

    For example, the new paperwork is very very concerning. It's things like that... pointless trivial regulations, that we should be doing away with. The government asks if you are a member of an anti-government organization, which means they must be concerned about this to a degree. Good. They should be.

    In general, though... having lived in Texas for a time now, I will say, at least outside of the large cities or in the smaller ones, I'm quite ok with guns being everywhere. People are very courteous...including law enforcement.

    To this point... I'd like to point out that when you have law enforcement with guns and civilians without, a "superiority complex" (known phenomena) takes place. This was found in a Stanford psychological study, and the results were pretty shocking.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

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