T5Man

I was thinking something along the lines of this as well. In other words. We have to literally think outside the box. We are all concerned with "scientifically" proving the existence of god when we can't. We are so bent and bounded by the rule that if we can't prove that God exists within our own 'set of rules' then God doesn't or can't exist. If God is indeed a 'supreme' omnipotent being, he is obviously 'out of this world' so to speak. What kind of supreme being would God be if we were able to comprehend his/her/it's existence, actions, etc. ? If we could, God wouldn't be God, just some guy who had the knowledge to make stuff. On a side note - there are actually logical explanations of why God (or some kind of supreme being) has to exist. The long version would take an entire essay and it is kind of philosophical in nature, I could give you the short version but the philosphy behind it would probably bore most of you to death. Here's the really short version: First I would have to explain to you the statement "There is no cause that is uncaused". And by this I mean everything exists the way it does because something caused it to exist that way. Example: That computer you're typing on, that mouse you're moving, its all there because you bought it and put it there. It just didn't exist there one day "*POOF* there's a computer on my table." i.e. something caused it to be there - and that cause you. So what caused you to put the computer there? probably the need for a computer. Its all logic, "C" exists because of "B" and "B" exists because of "A", etc. Now how 'bout you as a human being? Surely something must've caused you to exist. Something or someone. Sure you would say your parents. Your parents gave birth to you and here you are. Now keep going back in that 'backwards' direction to the birth of man kind - what created man kind? Science would have you believe a buncha cells came together. - sure we'll go with that for now. So what caused those cells to form? surely something caused that as well, and then what caused that? If we are to keep travelling backward in this direction it would continue on infinitely. But surely everything has a beginning, it is incomprehensible by man that something has no beginning; something that is, always was and always will be. So if we are to go infinitely further and further backward we would inevitably arrive at what started everything - in otherwords God - a supreme being who is, was and always will be. Now scientific theory would have you believe the Big Bang is what started everything in motion. But let me ask you this, what caused the big bang? If you are a logical person, you would be inclined to agree that the big bang, like the computer example explained above, just didn't *POOF* exist there one day - something must've caused that big bang. Now flame away.