I'm with Zappo...Ultegra on the Lemond. The most important thing (to me) is comfort and feel, and if you feel the Lemond does that for you, then get it. Parts are replaceable for upgrades...D/A shifters, etc. QUOTE (matt b @ Mar 21 2008, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>rough times and some pavement kissing, cat. 5 races are a mess. ...oooh the memories... he's fine...its not going anywhere. chains are nto supposed to be tight.