you're right - Total turnout in 04 was 122 million out of 220 million voting age citizens. 55.3% turnout - the highest since 1968. Lobbyists are not there to corrupt, that's a pretty cynical outlook on their role in the political process. They are there to influence policy on behalf of their client groups, which often represent a huge segment of the population. When I said America has gone to shit it's kind of a sarcastic tounge in cheek thing. We have always had problems since the early days, nothing has changed and nothing will. democracy is an imperfect system of government, not that there is a perfect form though. I agree that we've got it very good here, and the problems we face now are not as major as they were 60 years ago. I do find it silly to think that our problems today were caused signle-handedly by one particular ideology or political party though.