theForgottenone

Border tax will never get through.

now, they will try to hype the market with shifting focus on tax cut. Market will shit to bed soon if any hint that thing will never materialize.

all the trump hype about to end soon. We are only 2 months in. LOL

On 1/25/2017 at 1:36 PM, Black Betty said:

I have a kid (16 months), moved to WA, bought a house and drive an old BMW...

I thought you lived in Denver? 

Mexican kids probably shake him down for lunch money when he was younger.

I'm all prewire for cat5e.  I can run either POE or with actual 120v electrical plug.  I can buy any individual cameras but just don't know what Network recorder system can integrated with the ease compatibility for them. That is my struggle to figure it out. 

Or I can bite the bullet and buy one of those premade system from Costco.

Does anybody have a recommendation for a surveillance system with hardrive for POE setup?

came across a old thread on google search and the best answer was to piece together a set from alienexpress.  I was thinking of Qsee but then that thread was frown upon the brand among others such as lorex.

just needing 4 cameras setup.

Nobody will laugh when trump playing nuke war games with china and n Korea. Nobody win in any war. 

52 minutes ago, flyfishing3 said:

well i have to admit i have mixed feelings on the trump group floating HUNTSMAN as SoS.  I think he is the perfect guy, would do an honorable job and a person i've talked about wanting as PRES.

I"m worried he will become tainted under the TRUMP 4 yr nightmare.  Maybe he should do it to help Fix the messes, but it i can't see it being fun.

 

 

Huntsman from Utah?

his daughters get my vote any day

11 hours ago, Kevin. said:

 

scared that the old fucks will keep denying climate change and put their own selfish interests before their goddamned country. We need to move forward as a country and accept facts: the earth is changing and the planet is warming because of our actions. The younger people see their future going up in smoke and don't like it, they're adults so let them make decisions. You don't have to be 50 to know what you're talking about, plenty of people have life experiences that taught them quite a bit. This whole safe space/PC bullshit has to stop though, I do no support the people rioting and burning shit because Clinton lost, get the fuck over it. They need to act like the adults they are.

you are are not living in a 3rd world country under communist regime. Tell me how you as a Caucasian person is being scared  as trump being POTUS.

i didn't vote or want him to be one but that will NOT prevent how i will live my life for next 4 years.  Last I checked, USA is filled with a bunch of white privileged kids who doesn't have a clue what freedom and entitlement really meant.

If they spend all of their energy on rioting across the country  put to good use for many other noble cause then the America can be great again.

12 minutes ago, Fudge_Brownie said:

I like that a lot in theory, but kinda curious how that gets enforced. Government people or managers are going to be demanding receipts? I don't like that part of it.

I already said I was aware of isolated incidents. In fact, I knew of one that happened in MA. Bill Clinton showed up in New Bedford during the primaries, with entourage/motorcade and allegedly caused a clusterfuck making it hard for people to get to the voting location.

But you didn't address the more important issue: How does mandatory voting improve any of that? It will only make it worse. People aren't going to bother because there's a 10hr line. And what are you going to do to those people who refused to stand around for a long time? Punish them?

Why isn't all states offer ballot by mail.

I been voting for both local and presidential election via ballot by mail since college.  Never had to step into any voting booth or know what it is look like.

It is finally finished.

1 hour ago, Yellow95 said:

 

To hate trump is a choice but to support a woman that caused the death of at least 3 people that we know of is incomprehensible to me.  There are many seals out there that would stand in line to slit her throat and I would pay good money to see that happen.  Its a shame that the lives of men that protect this country mean less to some then an ignorant "anybody but trump" mantra.

How many military service man/women did Bush Jr killed by invading Iraq ? 

We won't need to even list civilian casualties since it will be too much for you to comprehends.

Did Trump sniff some coke before the debate last night

3 minutes ago, Burn-E said:

I have a theory that Bill Clinton is already writing the draft of a book he'll title, "If I Did It?" wherein he will discuss hypothetically how he single handedly destroyed the Republican Party and guaranteed a victory for Hillary by convincing Trump to take a run at it.  He sold Trump by showing how it was a no lose situation where even if Trump lost in the Primaries or even the General he would have grown the Trump brand for media opportunities.

Let's just recognize that if he did it Clinton is the greatest political strategist of the last century.

And remember how Trump does business these days, he goes in and secures a guaranteed return for himself with no regard for the outcome for his partners.  What he did with Trump magazine is exactly what he's done to the GOP.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/donald-trump-magazine-employee-confessional-bankrupt-2016-214155

Bill Clinton is smarter than many had given him credit for.

Well, who are to say what Elon musk believe is not true.  Can anyone disprove it  ?

Most uneducated people will vote for Trump. They are buying into the false believe that he can make America great again.  What they don't know is trump has bankrupt 4 times. Trump business for scamming and defraud people of money is being sued (trump university). 

If you want this loud mouth angry kid to be your potus then vote away.

im back mother f. Fatso can  wave his E-dick only for so long. 

Adam love having penis breath.

1 hour ago, Oreo931 said:

you're a dike 

And you are a tool

32 minutes ago, Burn-E said:

Yes I am Lucas.  It operates under the same principle. Recall the definition I offered for faith earlier in the thread.

 

This would be a straw man argument if because faith is need for believing in religion so then in order to believe mocelular scale, then it is the same principle. 

One is science where it can be proven right or wrong. It can show whether it exist or not.

other side of argument for religion is speculation. It is like I think my biotech stock will get fda approval based on my research so it must be right and it is the truth to dump my money into it.

Trump clinched nomination. God help us all

1 hour ago, ErikS said:

We know very little, we should stick to the simple questions, true evidence comes by way of religion .. but only if you believe in it.

 

 

 

As I have mention previously, the one word resonance with believing in religion is *faith*. 

Just take Jesus words and the bible as the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

you seem to be lacking in this important criteria there Erik

Seem like the BMW genius is not doing their expected job. Too bad Kevin can't work everywhere.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/05/23/bmw-i3-range-extender-lawsuit-supports-teslas-store-argument/

The lawsuit was filed in California by some owners of the BMW i3 REx, i.e. the version that's equipped with a gas-powered "range extender," according to Green Car Reports. The issue is that, when the car's battery starts running low and the powertrain is subjected to extended stress, such as a long uphill highway stretch or a fully loaded vehicle, the car can slow from highway speeds to as slow as 45 miles per hour without warning. The claim states that the vehicle can post a danger as a result, while BMW has declined comment, citing pending litigation.

Meanwhile, Tom Moloughney, owner of the first BMW i3 REx to be sold in the US, says the problem might rest at the dealership level. Moloughney says that if dealers explained the car's mechanics better – especially the fact that the range extender is essentially a 34-horsepower, two-cylinder motorcycle engine whose power is limited – drivers would be better informed about what could happen when the battery power is sapped at highway speeds. While Tesla EVs don't have the same sort of REx powertrain, this argument nicely dovetails with what Tesla Motors has been saying for a long time, that its cars should only be sold at company-owned stores because third-party dealers are less likely to understand and explain the nuances of electric vehicles.

6 minutes ago, Fudge_Brownie said:

 

Atheism is not a religion. I don't see how that's debatable. And you're mistaken when you say atheists have to believe in a higher power. Maybe for them to believe that is illogical, but it doesn't mean they don't believe it. You're essentailly debating symantics at this point. You need to realize that just like there are those who operate in the name of god incorrectly, there are those who operate under the title of atheism incorrectly. But that doesn't change that you're still wrong about what an atheist is

Certainly aren't in control of your own destiny though? That's obviously what you believe but I think you'll find many atheists and agnostics disagree. I don't believe some magical power controls my destiny. Fate's an excuse to explain complex scenarios and serendipity/phenomenon/coincidence.

I agreed completely.  Not believing any religion can't be label as an entity or group believe in a type of religion.

2 minutes ago, ErikS said:

How can something be true and not true simultaneously?

That's what we are asking the religious.  There is evidence for facts, and there is fiction - if God is not fiction show me evidence.

Absence of evidence is not evidence for the opposite argument.

We are asked to believe in faith. Isn't that all religions is boiled down to?

Some willing to do thing for the promise of 72 virgins waiting for them.

Others promise that there is afterlife with heaven is the ultimate  final destination.

All of these religions discussion make my head hurts. 

I believe there is a creator but I don't know who is that creator is. Is it God or someone else. 

I still i haven't seen proof that God is the creator but I seen how religion has used and abuse their power opposite of their motto/mission.

2 minutes ago, Kevin. said:

 

since it's not my job or anything

Yes, you are doing excellent job. 

Please ignore Kevin when he speak of bmw