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Wow, first conservative I have ever know in Minnesota!!! ~Mike

If the fo-sale site is only read and we have to use the auction part, how do I post a feeler? Do I just go post it in off topic? ~Mike

ANyone heard of Cyprus Kar? Interesting stuff we did to him even though he was an american. Look it up, it is interesting. He is now sueing Rummy for being a douche. ~Mike

It is not theft, unless you want to pay for a private education your whole life, want to hire your own military to protect you against "terrorists," build roads for you to drive on, and other things that you could not live without. I thought you were patriotic, GIVE BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY WHAT IT GIVES YOU, hahahaha. ~Mike

And what problem is there with taxing a person? Would you notice a couple penny increase on anything you buy? Think of how much money the government would get with that extra pocket change! ~Mike

I see your point, and a well made one. But, there should be some way to tax the corporation as a whole versus directly taxing the share holders. Any suggestions? The government should get a portion of the profit without taking it away from the share holders. ~Mike

Wrong, again, liberals are "evolving," not cnoservatives who just think one mindedly and don't look towards the future. We keep on having tax cuts, then we will be stuck in debt for a long time. The stock market is not a measurable comparrison on how rich our government is, rather how much money profitable corporations are making. And guess where the government takes their money from, other branchesof funding, such as scial security, public education, and other important aspects of our lives. Texaco made a record profit in the trillions, and do they get taked that much, NOOOO!!! I that fair? I think not. And USMC, you read my post wrong, the extra $500 dollars each would gain 105 billion dollars. The point is that if we tax a little, what differnece does it make to the common man? Don't b*tch about a little extra cash to help out the government. I bet none of you would even notice a 2 penny increase in taxing goods. And I have just now realized why USMC is so dumb and follows Bush without asking questions. That is what his proffesion teaches, blind obediance. Does USMC = United States Marine Core? If not, then disregard the last three sentences... ~Mike EDIT: I want to hear what the common-man thinks about this, not some marine or Republican extremist.

Love the stuff you have done Chuck!!! ~Mike

And all of this "so-called" tax relief is all good, even though it is slanted because everyone I know says that the tax cuts only give it to the wealthy, but we will go with you on this one, WHERE DO WE EXPECT TO PAY FOR THE WAR!!! If he keeps on giving us tax breaks, I don't think people will donate money to the government to help pay for the 2 BILLION dollars we spend every F'ING week!!! People will not complain about having 500 dollars added onto their taxes at the end of the day, for middle america. And then the extremely wealthy pay arounud say 100k-500k every year extra... So, we have 300,000,000 people in the U.S. say 200,000,000 of the people are middle america... they pay an extra 500$ on top of what they are paying... YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE WOULD HAVE?!?!?!?! 100,000,000,000 DOLLARS!!!!!!! And on top of that, maybe 50,000 people are extremely wealthy, and they pay a measly 100k extra, which wouldn't matter cause they have billions of dollars... 5,000,000,000 DOLLARS!!!!!!! Comming to a total of... 105,000,000,000 DOLLARS!!! So don't oh yeah! about taxing, when a little can go a long ways, and I know that there would be democratic dumb@$$es that would pocket the money, but you have to see that no matter if we taxed a little more and tax the extremely wealthy, we wouldn't be 3 TRILLION dollars into debt. ~Mike EDIT: And another thing, if you say that people will invest in the economy after tax breaks, who does that benefit? The corporations and the people, not the GOVERNMENT!!! And realize that these numbers are not accurate, the point is that by little taxing at a time, we can make up the deficit extremely quickly. And on top of that, when we don't have the money, guss where we get it from, CUTING SCHOOL BUDGETS!!! That is not right, so stop bitching and paya little more to support the country.

Studied his policies in AP U.S. History. Horrible Prez imo. ~Mike

-1. I hated Carter and he was a horrible president. The Dow Jones is a reflection of the profit of some corporations, not of the nation as a whole buddy. ~Mike

O common dude, a week ago he said "I see no reason why he should resign" and "he has no intention of resigning" or something like that. And if you watched the press confrence, it was a train wreck. I watched it with two conservative friends and they thought he acted like a total retard and wouldn't answer questions. If the rep. would have won, Bush would have kept Rummy in power, there is something up... He knew that the dem. would press charges and get a commision report on how retarded rummy is, why else would he have done it, all of a sudden? And about the excuse, the new one is, "We have to protect the oil from the terrorists," stated by, I think, the leader of the Republican national commitee AS THE MAIN GOAL!!! A while ago, it was to get Saddam out, then make democracy work, and now it is a "main" focus to not let them F*** with our oil. Tell your party to stop lying and say that they just want the oil. ~Mike

WE GOT THE SENATE TOO!!!!!!!!!! Damn straight... 1) I don't like illegal immagrants and not all democrats support it 2) That has been happening more over the past six years than ever before 3) How do you expect to pay for the war with low taxes. Their tactics don't work because the big companies just invest and the money does not go to anything but the stock-market. We need to tax the top 1%, not everyone. So, unless you're a multi-billionare and you want your children to pay for the war, don't complain about it. 4) If you're an idealogical, head stuck in the rear person about gays, you need to open your eyes and mind and be aware of them for who they are, not their sexual orrientation. 5) Limbaugh is the biggest douche and everyone knows it. I can't believe anyone still listens to him. Next to Bill O'Reily, he ranks high on the political douche ranking. 6) Every 7-11 store has been like that for EVER, crappy analogy, the first one (although true, need stricter laws here in Cali) was better, haha. 7) You're welcome ~Mike

Are your ears not open??? O, an another thing real quick, your republicans have changed reason why we are in Iraq, for the fifth time... ~Mike

Funny how the president lied and said he wasn't thinking about resigning, all a bunch of f'ing lies... ~Mike

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 50D-49R. Good timing. And what is up with Bush lying about Rumsfled not resigning? And the new guy is a total other story... I will admit that polosey is a little crazy, but I am happy with the results, just need Virginia to get Webb in, cause it is obvious he one! ~Mike

B)--> QUOTE(Plan B @ Nov 7 2006, 11:59 PM) ← Hope that was towards the comment and not me, haha. But ya, we need to realize that there are other people and it is not immoral to be homosexual, it is the most immoral and unethical thing to say that it is not. I, however and Grant don't take offense, think that brokeback marriage should have another name, but still have all of the benefits of a 'marriage,' because a marriage is between a man in a woman, imo. But we should all be aware and not shut down just cause something is differnet and we do not know about it!!! ~Mike

He is not a homo, don't insult Grant... He is uber conservative who can't hold his thoughts inside himself. And how can he be against homosexuals? That is soooooo wrong in every aspect. You need to be more accepting and open your eyes. Another thing, if you think that Jesus was conservative, you are a total retard. The Jewish heirarchy was conservative, Jesus was a liberal. He allowed women to preach with him and went against basically everything that the faith believed in... And he prayed with sinners, something the conservatives would not do. Starfish needs to take his head out of his @$$ and realize that there are other views of people, and that you need to be more excepting, common' dude. ~Mike

+1. I will reiterate this again... DEMOCRACY WILL NOT WORK IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!! It doesn't take a genius to realize it. Bush has his own ideology but will not look at the facts. When has forcing a democracy actually worked on a country who had just had a dictator in power for the last thirty or so years. It took the U.S. a long time to perfect democracy (which is a little sketchy now), but we have a good idea how to put it into effect. Here in the U.S., we have a seperation of church and state, and in the middle east, everything is related to religion. the religious sects will fight each other no matter what, and they will assasinate the commanders who they don't like and there will always be corruption. We need to realize that and come up with a new stratagy. We all make mistakes, but we need to realize when we do it and change course to make the outcome better. And USMC, I agree that Terrorists are not included in the Geneva 'conventions,' but the definition of 'terrorist' is pretty wide in bush's mind. We take people into torture places that have nothing to do with terrorist organizations. They have no power to defend themselves with an attorney or anything. How would you like to be picked off the street and tortured for three years without a fair trial or anything? Don't know how it would feel, ask Majar Arar, the Canadian... It is a disgrace what this country is comming to, and we need to change our policies for a GOAL, not just fighting random insurgents... ~Mike P.S. Thanks for opening the forum up to the regular members. :)

Ever heard of the Constitution? How about the Geneva Acords? What about all the self dignity that this country prides itself on? You wanna sacrifise all that to torture someone you have no information on? Ever heard of Majar Arar? The Patriot Act is just a ridiculous plan to invade the privacy of the citizens that suspends Habeas Corpus... you know the last time somone did that? I believe it was Lincoln. The democrats, I agree, need to get a plan, but there plan, imo, would be better than the one now. RaZoR, I support you brother. We need new authority cuase the one right now isn't doing such great job. ~Mike

Winning 'battles' at the cost of inocent human lives that did no have to be lost is not considered winning. And to Grant, It is a civil war with radical islamic sects fighting each other under the same borders. This is why Democracy will not work, and I still do not know how the Republicans think it will, it is just flat out stupid. It took a long time for democracy to work in the U.S., and we didn't have different religious groups bombing the crap out each other! I just don't see where this war is going, and neither does the rest of the World. Bush says that Democrats don't have a plan... well he is right, cause the democrats are perplexed where to start because the administration has F'ed so much stuff up, it is hard to say where to start. Sorry, I am a little pissed because my uncle is going off for a third trip to Iraq, and I don't think he should go, I apologize. ~Mike

Gotcha. Masters in political science I pressume. Nice, a non argumentative conversation USMC, haha. ~Mike

I thought he went to Harvard? Or was that graduate school? ~Mike

HAHA, ya. I would think it would be cool to have him as an uncle or something, haha. ~Mike

You got it. He isn't a bad guy, actually prett cool in public. I just don't agree with his tactics, haha. ~Mike