Boost_Junky

that truck screams camber kit

correction, you usually take all the credit. :lol:

The house thing is funny. No other candidate has been under the gun like Obama. The are holding him to higher standards than any other candidate ever. I wish I had time to keep going on with this, but today was crazy at work. Somebody got fired and I was in the middle, now I need to do my rear bushings because my tires are done (bands showing). My rear alignment is out of wack and I have to get that fixed. New tires are on tomorrow. When I catch up I will watch the link and read that page cletus. I will also post some more stuff about Obama. To paraphrase my beliefs, Obama is just the better of the two. His words are correct most of the time, I would say what he says in most cases. I do feel this country is in the crapper. I do see why business go other places and countries. I do agree with appropriating tax money better. I do believe that war is not the answer unless we are attracted first. I do believe I was better off before Bush and the republican congress fubared this country. That is why me, as a conservative person and a registered republican, I am voting for Obama. I am tired of the same old crap. Even if it's new crap it's time to move on. The cooperations (oil, pharma, financial) are running this country and putting out all this bad press because they do not want a candidate that will not let them roam free and screw America in the process. That is the propaganda that being fed to the public. Even saying there is a crap load of liberal press out there is a lie. I can't find pro-Obama radio.

Funny here is are two articles from Kristof and Obama that talk about his Muslim connections. He never say’s what you claim. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09kristof.html http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/0...dfathers-wives/ The tapes are a CLAIM. Nothing has surfaced so at this point it is more of your hearsay. Who did you think made this claim, the NEO-CONS. And back to the airlift. The airlift was always a Kennedy foundation project. Hints the name Kennedy-Kenyan Airlift. Mboya never had a dime and was always looking for funding. http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/wale/CqdT http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jan/1...uselections2008 Site your sources please, because this is getting thick. I better get some big boots. Cletus, I will respond to your post tomorrow. I have to go to sleep. Good night and thank you for the intellectual debate. I am thoroughly enjoying this. It’s a nice break from “how can I turbo my NA, look at my sticker, and I just washed my car check it out” threads.

You totally missed the point, no surprise there though. You listed a great word, IDENTIFY[to associate in name, feeling, interest, action, etc] in your synonyms for sympathize. You don't find it alarming that Obama IDENTIFIES with Malcom X on his desire to exponge his white devil blood? Why would someone want to exponge their white blood, sorry, white DEVIL blood? Malcom X tells us, he says he wants to exponge his white devil blood because he HATES his white side. Hate is a strong word, and in Malcom X's description of desires to rid himself of his white devil blood, the same statement that obama IDENTIFIES with, it's the word he uses. I never said I was pretending to understand how it is to be a black man in the US, but I find it odd that someone can be born into and raised by a white family, and abonded by his black father and later his white mother and come to hate the white side, the side that did more for him as a child than his black side of the family ever did. I'm sure it was tough being 1 of 2 black kids in a prestigeous prepartory school in hawaii, a school where only Hawaii's finest attended. Hard times for Barry Obama for sure. As for Radicals, I'm well aware of what it means. What is important is the type of radicals one associates themselves with. Hitler was a radical. Stalin was a radical. Musolini was a radical. Che' Guevara was a radical. Should I continue, or do you get the point? No? Figures. The people by whom Obama was inlfuenced [the capacity or power of persons or things to be a compelling force on or produce effects on the actions, behavior, opinions, etc., of others] by, like rev. wright, were racists. People who hated the white race. If you don't see a giant red flag here, then you're blind. Thank you for restating the same crap. We could have referenced your first post if we wanted to re-read your position. So I now feel compelled to restate this; identify does not = agree. I identify with you, but I do not agree. News flash, when one attends a muslim school in a MUSLIM country, one reads the koran as part of ones education. I don't have "sworn statements" but I've read interviews with his past teachers and principals. Also, isn't listening to someone read something the same thing as reading it yourself? I'm not saying he's bad for going to "muslim school", I'm saying it's bad that he lies about it on his campaign website. Have you attended said school? Do you have their curriculum? I had no idea you were an expert on Muslim schools. I do not have any overwhelming evidence saying that he read anything. Muslim in another country is a cultural term. Only here does it just describe religion. Your statement would be the same as saying that someone read the bible at an American school or someone read the Torah at an Islamic school. No, listening to someone reading is called listening. Reading is called reading. They are different words just for that reason. I hate walmart, thanks for giving me another reason not to vote for Obama. Wal-mart has given sick people a way to buy cheaper medication. They have done more bad than good but this is a hell of a start for them. The first airlift was paid for by Tom Mboya IIRC. The second airlift was paid for by a Kennedy fund while Kennedy was in office after Mr. Mboya persuaded Kennedy. I've done my research, thanks though. Bush was a drunk, and so was Obama Sr, and so was Lolo Soetoro. As for cocaine, Obama has a lust for the white stuff too, I hear a little smack as well. As for the civil rights rally, the time line doesn't add up, e.g. the selma event vs. Obama being born. IT's a total fabrication. The airlift was known to be a Kennedy funded project. That is all Obama was referring to. So where did you hear Obama has smoked crack? I really hope that is not a racist statement. Moving on, are we just going to restate things or can we move on to something like the house purchase issue or inflating tires? :D

Do you really want me to? Obama admits in his own auto biography that whilst searching for his identity as a "black" man (not a black/white man) in America at a young age, he was heavily influenced by radicals of the black anti-colonialist movement of the 50's and 60's. These guys were all about down with whitey and of the thought that they had to put on their white face over the black skin to survive in a "white" society. These are not good people to be associated with, the fact that he spent 20 years under the tutilage of a blatant racist should be alarming, and the fact that you don't find it alarming is in its self, ALARMING. Obama also admits in his autobiography that he sympathizes with Malcom X's desires to expunge himself of his white devil blood. So why would someone who doesn't hate white people have such a desire to rid themselves of their association with the white race? What has the white race done to him? His WHITE grandparents slaved away at their jobs so that Barry could get a top education at the Punahou school in Hawaii, a school that's tuition is about 70k today. Yet, after all they did for him, Barrack felt the need to throw his white devil grandparents under the buss due to a single conflict his grandmother had with a black street peddler when he was in high school. Sounds like a great guy. You really should do some research on your candidate of choice, not just get your news from MTV. I don’t watch MTV. But nice try. So you are pretending to understand how it is to be a black man in America? How’s that working out for you “g-dizzle”? Let me take your words as truth and counter point. So when you sympathize with someone, you agree with them or you understand how they feel? Here are some synonyms for sympathize, maybe this will help you understand. Empathize, feel sorry for, express sympathy, understand, identify, feel bad for. Funny, in that I never heard “agrees with” or “I share the same view.” Somebody has been listening to the neo-cons and spinning some top notch bull crap. Let me guess who. I am influenced by radicals. Does that make me hate other people. NO. “Radical” let’s define that for you too. Radical in this sense of the word means to “favor major change” - favoring or making economic, political, or social changes of a sweeping or extreme nature. “Radical”. So in your research that your pinning on me. Did it include a dictionary? Obama being a muslim is a moot point. What is important is the fact that on his own website he claims that he has never been a muslim, never read the koran, never prayed to alah, etc. This is 100% FALSE. Barack used to go to prayer meetings with his muslim step father Lolo Soetoro. That doesn't mean he prayed there, but... He admits in HIS OWN autobiography that he was disciplined while in school for making faces during the reading of the Koran. Hmm. Barry, I mean Barack, admits also that he attended a muslim school in indonesia for 2 years, and a catholic school for additional two years before moving to Hawaii to live with his dirty white grandparents. His school teachers and principals recall Barack reciting prayers in class that are resevered only for those "true believers" of Alah. So why lie about never reading the koran, or praying to alah? He sure is good at lying. None of your so called evidence proves that he READ the Koran. How many people have heard or listened to a passage from the bible but never read it. Probably more than actually read the bible. Come on the moot point here is yours. I mean how many people went to catholic school but don't believe in god, a ton! So if he goes to a non-christain school he is bad. Nice one. You have sworn statements from school teachers? This is most likely something you heard or read. In court we call that hearsay. big deal. It goes both ways. Agreed. How do you think he's going to make it "more affordable?" Use your brain. Same way Walmart did, use yours. Yeah, we're all out of good ideas, so lets give all of our hard earned money away to the poor and lazy, raise the crap out of taxes, and F over everyone that worked hard to become what they are. Great idea, where do I sign up? Oh that's right, I click the box for Obama in Novemeber. No thanks. That is exactly what the neo-cons are trying to brain wash you with. They want you to think Obama mean higher taxes, free handouts and bankrupt the nation. That’s what happened when Clinton was in office huh? NOT! The only ones getting tax breaks and handouts are oil companies, pharmaceutical companies and contracters for the government. Nice one republican. Actually, if you knew anything about your candidate at all, you'd know that he has an extremely inflated view of himself. Did you know that he has tried to inline himself with JFK and MLK? Obama has a history of twisting events of the past to boost his image and better position himself as a public figure. He claims JFK was the reason his father, a drunk and a polygamist, was brought over to the states to attend college by paying for the flight in 1959. Last I checked, JFK wasn't in office until 1961. Hmmm... Or what about Obama's speach in Selma Alabama where he states that the civil rights movement was responisble for his parents conceiving him? Better check the dates on that one too.. Better do some more research my dear debate buddy. I will let another dear friend of mine explain this one. “The story is that the Kennedy Foundation funded the Kenya airlift, which it did, just not the particular flight Obama Sr was on, could have been Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier or Jackie Robinson. The Kennedy Foundation didn't begin supporting those airlifts until the next year, but did support the program, so there is some validity to the story as Obama Sr continued to get financial support from the program. Obama did not say JFK brought him here, but why worry about semantics? (Washington Post, Micheal Dobbs wrote the article, but I don't have the date) Yes, his father was a drunk, but hey, so was Bush! And lets not forget that nasty cocaine thing..... Hate that people compare him to his father, because they might do the same to me and my mother. LOL! The rest of the argument is more tail wagging the dog, sins of the father and all.... can we stick to the issues? Joe Kennedy was a lousy human,bootlegger filanderer and most of his kids turned out okay, although the jury is still out on Ted... And why is it hard to believe that someone had sex during a civil rights rally? Really, have you ever been to a march, rally or protest? Well, I have and...Oh, yeah, I can see how a baby might happen.” Could not have put it better myself. But please keep them coming because I am just getting warmed up.

I like how this has come full circle. We are all American's here and political discussions can get real heated. I'm very happy to see we can all respect each others views.

LOL That's funny. It's still a spin by neo-cons to make you think any change in government is BIG brother growing ever so large. We need accountability not a bail out - hand out. Nobody is for bail outs, liberal or conservative. Neo-cons want everyone to believe if they leave the office, everything will be fall apart. Kind of like the employee that gets to comfortable and takes advantage of his job. Then when he is threatened to get fired he spouts off saying that the company cannot run without him. They will go bankrupt, they will fail. Then when he is gone, the company resumes business as usual and he is soon forgotten.

You do have a sense of humor at least. I however, like most people am not looking for a hand out. I have never had a hand out. My position is one for people and their well being. Things are not so black or white. Just becasue someone gets help does not mean we will give the whole wealth of America to everyone. Just becasue we want someone to have affordable healthcare does not mean it will be free. We can spend 1 billion a month on a war but can't feed the starving or get medicine to people here in our own country. We are not looking to give away the house. This is not redistributing wealth either. That is drinking the koolaid as you say. We are looking to improve life for Americans. I am for that.

Wow, that was a spirited response. These are my views after being VERY well informed on both sides of the fence. This was not a personal attack against you. When I say conserva-nazi I am speaking of most conservative radio personalities that use bully tactics to rally support from people such as yourself. Your anger has really taken the validity of your argument away. How can I take your word when you think/write in such a manner? You will shoot me and beat me up for being liberal. Is that what this has resorted to?

RA and Hypothyroidism. I'm really proud to hear that there are others that do not deal with their chronic pain in a destructive way. I would have to say we are the minority tho. To pull this back into the topic. If I was given medical mary-jane to deal with the pain, I would not do it. Mary-jane is not as bad as other drugs. However, it enters you into an attitude, life and culture that is shared by others that do worse drugs. Smoking mary-jane puts you in the same group as all other junkies in the minds of employers, insurance companies and in most cases the law. Until it is federally legal like tabacco, that will not change.

No, correction, the actual Obama. Republicans are running scared. Is it me or are they very scared right now? Anything that they can think of is being thrown around. -“Obama’s affiliation with the his church means he HATES white people.” Republican spin has it like Obama said the things the reverend did. Am I accountable for everything somebody else says because I associate with them? In that case I must be a KKK member like Dave! (LOL) -“Obama is Muslim.” Another racially motivated smear made up by the republicans. He’s Muslim but we are supposed to hate him for the anti-white Christian church he goes to. Which is republican liar? Which is it? -“Obama snuffed the troops during his visit to the middle east.” Another spin the republicans made up. Obama followed the advice of his security advisors. Which didn’t allow him to interact as much with people in non-secure zones. Any dumb a$$ would understand that. He is a target people. Look at all the republican racist cross hairs on him already, and that’s in the USA. -“Obama wants to bankrupt the USA by giving health care away for free.” Another republican lie. Obama wants to make health care affordable. Not free. Where is the word “free” in affordable? They said Clinton was going to bankrupt the USA too, and we ended up with a surplus. Unless you make over 250k a year, you’re not rich enough to be voting for a "republican get the rich richer canadate." -“The democrats want to make the county a communism.” This is another republican bully term used to try smear the democrats. Your futile thoughts are transparent republicans, you’re scared and out of actual good ideas. -“Calling Obama our savior or messiah." This is a very backhanded attempt by the conserva-nazi’s to subconsciously impress the ideal that Obama thinks he God. This was spawned by the scared thoughts that he will win by a landslide. It also has roots in the anti-christ is coming theory. All of this is trying to scare people from voting for the “big scary God like black man who doesn’t like his country and wants to give your money away to African Americans and poor people.” (LOL) These are only some of the lies and propaganda being spread by the republicans. I have heard on FOX radio that the republicans think he is going to give black people reparations. WTF is that? Are you serious? It’s the same old crap. Now the republicans are blaming the democratic congress for all their republican mistakes. The republican party is solely to blame for this country’s economic troubles. They are the reason we are fighting a pointless war in a country that has nothing to do with us. Where we are spending over a billion dollars a month, and the republicans want to cry about healthcare for fellow Americans bankrupting the country. Oh and where is Bin-Laden? The Georgia conflict is more complicated than just jumping on one side. You have some provinces who want to rebel against Georgia and return to communism, which is their choice. They enlisted Russia and Georgia retaliated. Now Russia has dead men on their hands. They are not too happy, but you will not hear this from the conserva-nazi press. Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, all of the above. They don’t report both sides like they say. They spin everything for a conservative upper hand. And what sickens me is that so many people slurp it up like retarded sheep licking the butthole of a rich press reporter – talk radio host. I have a message for republicans. Stop running scared like your money will dry up helping other Americans. Stop lying and bulling your way through Washington. Stop running the country like a money crazed mad man who has no concern for human rights. STOP, we the people will not put up with it. Smear all you want. Your party is done. It’s time for a change. No more will we put up with your lack of morals and conservative tactics to keep money above all else. You are ruining our name and I as one will not have it. This is America and the only thing getting us closer to communism is this so-called terrorist war the republicans have us fighting. We are chasing our tails around making the world hate us and losing our freedoms in the process. All the while cooperations are making huge money off government contracts. We have to contract out jobs that the military used to do in the gulf war. Why? If we didn’t, we would have to DRAFT more soldiers. Think about that conserva-nazi, you could never sell a war if there was a draft. The democrats will not have us in a socialist society, nice try republican grumpy old man. We will still have free enterprise but there needs to be accountability. We need to get back to WE THE PEOPLE and get away from WE THE COORPERATION! On the issue of abortion. We as men should have little to no say in abortion. As long as the child is in woman’s body, it is her choice to do with it what she wants. Last time I checked men don’t have a uterus and we shouldn’t make choices for people who do. To clear things up, if I was a woman, I would never abort my child. However this is not the case. Once the living child is out of the mother’s womb, then this becomes a human rights issue. The fact that Obama has little experience is a breath of fresh air. The guys with experience are generally corrupt and afraid of change. We need a new, young blooded liberal to come shake things up. We have had the yang for too too long, we are in desperate need of the yin. /rant

I have seen the strongest people lose the battle. I don't know if anyone is strong enough once they start taking them for a long time. My condition will not get better either, only worse. I would rather not put myself in that position. A position where I become accustom to relief for a level of pain that will only get worse. Personally, I have never seen anyone take them for an extended period of time and not become dependent. The part that sickens me is that people lie to themselves. People believe their own BS while their life falls down around them. I've seen fathers forget their children. Mothers steal from their family, sisters lie to the core of their being. I have seen families torn apart, all for drugs. I blame the individual and I blame their lies. I blame doctors for over prescribing and I blame the government for the lack of regulation. There is a difference between use and abuse. It's just while you're under the influence, doctor prescribed or not, you usually can't tell the difference.

Don’t be so quick to judge. I have more pain then you will ever know. Some mornings I can't move. Standing in one place kills me. If I kneel down on the ground for an extended period of time, I struggle to get back up. I have chronic joint pain and it's not going away. I see a rheumatologist 2 times a month. Some nights it’s so bad I don’t sleep. Oh, BTW I take nothing for pain. I work out, jog, eat healthy and take non-euphoric, non-narcotic supplements to help. Like fish oil, chondroitin and glucosamine. I try to stay healthy and non-medicated. My doctor tries his heart out to shove Roxycotton and Percocet down my throat. But at the end of the day, I am responsible for what I take. I will not be that guy, I have seen it ruin too many lives.

Listen, if a doctor gave you a gun and told you to shoot your penis off, would you do it? Doctors drink the industry cool aid and prescribe addictive and harmful pills all the time. There are too many doctors who, instead of fixing the problem, prescribe a pill so you don't know it's there. It's the same thing as removing your check engine light bulb instead of fixing the fault causing the error code. Drugs can be used for good, and some of them have changed life for the better. However we are an overmedicated society that believes a bunch of bull sh_t excuses to keep ourselves drugged all the time. Talk to your elders about depression. They would tell you they dealt with depression and emotional issues with action, prayer and hard work. Most of the time they were fighting wars, working industry jobs or farming land. They didn't have time to think about how they felt about life. They were too busy living it. We are so lazy and spoiled. We have all these new diseases that need medication that really don't exist outside our minds. Moral is, get off your rear end and stop complaining about everything and trying to medicate yourself for a little bit of mental anguish or mediocre pain. America needs to stop thinking with their vaginas and start manning up. If it doesn't kill you, it will make you stronger. How about someone showing us how strong they are, and how they can get through life on their own, without marijuana or pain pills.

Dave, I mean this in this most loving way. Stop posting in the for sale section when you are not buying or possably buying. I see you post whoring over there and you never buy anything and the info you offer isn't all that helpful to buyers. Once again I mean this in the most constructive way. Maybe Grant can help you with that one. :D

I've had a sweat tooth latley too. :D

It all makes since now. All that racial stuff was to cover for your feelings, your feelings for men.

+1 Everybody, quit your bitching and get to work.

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Didn't you have a DJ voting deal?

Dave you are a post whore.

Uhhh, I hope that is photoshopped.

The usually don't allow that talk at clan meetings.