A little confused. I have never seen such a post by a forum moderator. Any who... I met some of you at Carlisle, and all seemed pretty decent. Met George too, but not passing judgement. Me and another member from another board had a discussion about the demographics of those who support/visit here, v70r.com, and swedespeed. If you look at all 3 sites, it becomes very obvious what the general socio economic make up is of each. Not bashing in any way, but it is the truth. If I was a vendor looking to sell high end parts, of course I would go where the money is. How many Aston Martin, Lamborhgini, or Maybach dealerships are there in lower middle class neighoborhoods? That being said, I sure hope that no vendor would badmouth people as a whole. I know if I was running a business I would not. To state that multiple people's stories were very similar doesn't necessarily make it true. All it takes is for one person to miscontrue something for it to get way out of hand. Anyway, it was a cool get together, and next year I will make a weekend of it, and leave the Mrs. and little one at home. Was a lot of driving for the little bit of time I got to spend. -Shane (I heart hot moms)