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Hammer meet nail. You pegged it. We will see what happens when a Dem takes office and terror strikes.

Gary

Why wait? we know they will just blame it on bush as if we would not gone into Iraq then this would of never happened is what they will say

Personally I think Ford should sell Volvo. After all Ford seems to only have stolen (taken) the ideas from Volvo to enhance Ford models, from what I've seen they have done nothing for Volvo.

Speaking of which, if they sold Volvo would they be held responsible for using the S80 platform?

they have done everything for volvo

they have LEFT volvo alone and let them keep working on thier cars which is the BEST thing ford could of ever done for volvo.

So you want ford to of done with volvo what GM did with saab eh?

netscape??? its been like 5+ years since i have used that

Wow,

It will be interesting to see the outcome. Especially since I have stocks in both that are not doing jack.

yahoo's stock went up like $5 yesterday .... big gain from the talks that MS wants to buy them ... more of a merger than a buy out but still

guess i should say thanks for the nominations everyone ... i know i am an jerk but i really try to do the best for most here ... just to busy to get to everyone

next time can i just win a rolling chassis w/ a long block so i can build parts for everyone(cheap and ugly how things should be)

wow ... sucks ... so what mods and boost pressure were you running when it did this? and knock or you think just excessive CC pressures?

looks good ... damn near the same setup andy and i did

they should bring back turbos for F1 and let them go nuts BUT ... then again another one of the reasons for not letting them do that is only those with big $ can play AND i do not know if the tech for keeping the cars on the road can keep up with the power of the engines

i am fully with you on the ban ... kick them out for a few races ...will make people think again about cheating @ least untill they figure out a better way to do it

Crack has to be a premium option. Could it be making them run for 300,000 miles with only timing belt changes? My sisters Toyota truck has 285,000+ miles on it and Ive replaced the timing belt (2), plugs cap n rotor(2), and a coolant hose. Thats it (besides fluids). Runs like a top. Damn them for cheating the laws of planned obsolescence.

volvo did the same thing with thier rwd cars .... hell even some of the fwd's are like that, never mind the volvo's had a lot more power .. most cars had a turbo, or you could just bolt on a turbo to an n/a engine and make lots of power and still last 400k+ if taken care of ....tho if i was trusting my life in an accident i would much rather be in a volvo than a toyota ... so why is not volvo near the top? maybe they just cost to much ... but hey the old used cars should of been more popular

yea sure the old toyo trucks are nice but i have been in and worked on lots of thier cars and eh is all i can say about them... the 22re is one of the best engines i have seen as they love to just take abuse

myself i would much rather prefer a honda to drive engine/drivetrain wise if we are talking about Japanese imports. toyota is nothing special tho they figured out a way to do it w/o any kind of fun car for the last few years

ya'll can trash talk nascar all you want but untill you have done racing like that you really have no place to say how hard or easy it is ... i used to race 1/4 mile clay oval and trust me ... a lot lot lot harder than you think(tho loads of fun on clay). and there is cheating in anything that people compete in ... that is just how the world works as this is why we have rules and what not to try to stop the people that cheat as everyone wants to be #1 and will do whatever it takes to do it

hell we used to cheat to make weight as otherwise we could not even compete with the others on the track(was a 2bbl limited class and a few ran 4bbl's and other tricks to get extra air in... you would be amazed @ how quick they could swap carbs on an engine so by the time the tech guy got there it would be back to a 2bbl).... either way we would always find the heaviet guy in our crew and have him drive the car up to tech even tho he did not fit @ all. along w/ sometimes lean on the car so that side of it meets the weight spec. then again i think everyone did that to meet weight

i'd love to see nascar use OEM spec cars and blocks and have to build those up to 700hp and make them last .. that would be fun

either way down with limits let them go 300mph around the track just build larger walls to keep them from killing as many people when they crash

funny tho that it is a toyota car AGAIN caught cheating

also notice they mention a few other cars also getting hit for cheating but they say nothing else than others were also caught cheating

either way funny that toyota is back to its cheating ways ... wonder what it means they do to thier normal street cars to make them sell as well as they do ... maybe they inject you with crack through the seat so you have to go back and get more

Do you know for sure he did not giver permissions for the magazines to drive it?

Thanks

Matt Powers

www.powersstuntworx.com

I also never signed any kind of release for the mags to drive my car

post #48

http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index.php?s...st&p=885655

any idea if we can get back our supporting member status that was lost in all this?

nah everyone will have to pay up again

working?

sequential turbos getting more common:

check this out:

http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_2544/article.html

May give even better solution than VATN due to the extra control or be combined with VATN for the ultimate lag free set up throughout the rev range.

while that's cool and all ... when stuff starts to break dealer techs are going to hang themselves

my siting is paper, and i don't want to type it in as it's 2:30am, but i took your astonishment to heart and i did reread several times and found i had read into it that they were different sizes. clearly upon rereading it, and looking at the picture, it would substantiate your correction that they indeed were the same size. i'm sorry, it's way late for me thanks for the correction. this makes me think about it in a much different fashion. i need to go to bed hours ago... for the last 2 weeks.

works for me ... i typically have attitude bout everything s odo not take it to much to heart .... its just .. i thought everyone knew that they were both the same size

the way they work might lead one to think it is a smaller turbo feeding a larger .. but you do not see that to often on a stock car

because it was the best overall performance, or the best legal one? some types of power adders are against the rules.

if you have any info on twin charged rally audis i'd love to see it .. never heard of them

and dude what the FOCK are you talking about the supras

The MKIV Supra's twin turbos operated in sequential mode instead of the more common parallel mode. The sequential setup featured a pair of small, equally sized turbos, with ceramic blades for the domestic Japanese market and steel blades for export (USA, Europe) markets. At first, all of the exhaust is routed to the first turbine for reduced lag. This resulted in boost and enhanced torque as early as 1800 rpm. Approaching 4000 rpm, the exhaust is routed to the second turbine for a "pre-boost" mode, although none of the compressor output is used by the engine at this point. Approaching 4500 rpm, the second turbo's output is added to the intake air, and both turbos operate in parallel. Most cars which are advertised as "twin turbo" operate by having the two equally sized turbos constantly running in parallel; the turbos spool up at the same time. The sequential mode provides greater low-end response at the expense of increased complexity and cost.

the turbos wer ethe same size not a small and large

after trying to state something like that i lose almost all ability to trust anything you say unless you can back it up

bud of mine owned a 500whp supra ... upgraded the stockers and lots of cam and exhaust

all of the famous audi rally cars were just single turbo

WOW! What a gorgeous creation that is. That thing sounds so crazy.

I say do it, but you see in the dyno that the exhaust manifold got red hot, so you must do something with cooling and back pressure. Cool sh!t though.

uh ... the exhaust manifold getting that hot is 100000000000000% normal even on an open downpipe setup that is perfectly normal for things to glow like that under full throttle

and a single well sized turbo on a properly tuned engine will make the same if not more power

How about twin turbos.... a smaller and a larger, one for higher and lower RPMs?

99% of the cars that come like that stock .... switch to a single turbo for power

google 'twincharged'

it has been done before many times on all kinds of car s.. even a 16v volvo engine(redblock)

40meg ... if someone else wants to rehost/mirror that would be nice

http://www.hardcars.com/thepriestmike/Mant...a_fastdrive.wmv

should be a VW/audi engine

and they did make factory turbo ones in the 7 series so i see no reason why you could not swap over stock parts to turbo it

nothing new .. more than a few people have pimped out the diesel engines sa they make HUGE torque

You implied that you operated a 16 bay Volvo indy shop. Is that correct?

If this is true, are you going to publicly offer a <$500 downpipe?

i offered them @ 180 and no one wanted them .. oh well guess all of the local guys get em .. ugly but they work just as good as something that cost 5x as much

as soon as i can afford a fwd car i should be able to build a few more a bit less

Actually when I did my estimate I used $750 for the downpipe, so subtracting $750 bring it to $2300, you still have the downtime for custom tuning. Unless of course you have an extra ECU which I have and cost me $300 and about 6 months to find. God Bless

still almost 1k less ... and extra ECU is $100 from lots of online junkyards.. really easy to find

1k is a lot of $ that could be spent elsewhere like on that intercooler setup from dougy haha

My Opinion the price that IPD has is pretty good for a tuned system. The one thing that BREAKAWAY you did not account for is tuning. SO let us see here, using the figures you listed above:

turbo $1000 ( pssh ill give u that )

turbo back exhaust $500 ( custom )

ecu $300 to $400 ( other )

Custom downpipe with Cat $750-$900

Dyno Time: Minimum 2 sessions @ $75 each = $150

Custom tuning for the ECU = estimate @ $150 for each re-write, minimum 2 = $300

FEDEX @ $25 next day air X 2 times = $50

Total= $3050 - $3150 this still does not account for DOWN time when you are waiting for the ECU Re-Write to come back to you, which may take days or even weeks. SO for the price they are selling it is not bad. God BLess

you miss read ... he already listed a TURBO back exhaust for $500 .. so how can you add another 750-900 for just the downpipe and cat

so take 900 off that final total ..

as said many a times ... paying more than $800 for a complete turbo to tail 3" exhaust w/ two mufflers and cat is pretty insane

and for others ... turboback , turbo to tail, full exhaust all mean including downpipe

add 850 for that pimp intercooler and intercooler pipes from doug and there ya go