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First on the record about the issue is the best to be.

I certainly agree with that statement.

I would love to see the US health care system move to one more like Canada.

Health care is a huge expense for private companies in the US. I personally do not understand why it is your employers responsibility to take care of your health.

There are alot of small business that do not expand or may not even start because they cannot afford the expense of covering health insurance for their workers.

Besides, everyone benefits from everyone knowing they can go to a hospital or a clinic if they need to. Imagine somebody that has a serious illness that is contagious. Image that they are poor and have no insurance. Without universal healthcare that person may spread that illness to others causing a much greater economical loss and possibly human loss. With universal health care that person could be treated or isolated much sooner.

Ya parazhaus shto eti americanci dumaut shto oni vigrali vtoryu miravyu. Poshli oni na hui

Trying to write Russian with english letters is not easy eh.

One last thing. I try not to degrade or desparage anyones religion, especially if they do not try and force it upon me.

In his time, Jesus was a Liberal. His ideas and teachings forced change and went against the Conservative culture with their traditional views. So, before you go using Liberal as a four letter word, remeber that your savior was one. And it was Conservative people that Killed him.

If indeed you have accomplished those courses of study, how could you possibly state "Jesus, Whos that? Only a weak minded person would follow him!

Mohammed, Who's That? Only a weak minded person would follow him!

Buddha, Who's that? Only a weak minded person would follow him!"?

Finally, how could any religious school graduate possibly call The Bible a work of  fiction? No person whom is a true believer of faith in their religion could possibly think that they would pick and choose as to what parts of their Bible are fiction or non-fiction, that is blasphemy.

I'll stick to my original statement.

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Wow, you are really dense.

I bet Scientists call you all the time requesting to use your head to Capture Neutrinos.

You have got to be THE dumbest guy in America! Are you familiar with a book called the Bible? Have you read the book of Exodus? Ever hear of a guy named Moses? Do you know any of the story of the Ten Commandments? Are you a hippie, communist, liberal? Is John Lennon's song "Imagine" the extent of your political and religious knowledge? Have you completed any basic level of education anywhere? What religion bases their beliefs on the acceptance of another savior other than their God? Only wet pants liberal POS scum who attempt to demoralize their dumb uneducated willing followers do, thats who! There is no longer a Democratic party in this country. The former Democratic party has been over run with leftover communist socialist fascist's left over from the 1960's. Wake up!

Hmmm, let me see.

I Graduated from a Highly Acclaimed Prep school affiliated with the Episcipal Church. Completed numerous religious studies courses while attending both middle and high school. Not to mention weekly chapel services. Then Graduated from the University of Tulsa with a BSBA. Took a course on Genesis (By the way, Bill Cosby does a great rendition). Also took another Religious studies course. It covered the basics. You know, why is there evil in the world. Why does God allow bad things to happen to good people. Free will, etc. I also have a Masters in CIS from the University of Phoenix.

Yes, I have read the bible. Has some good parts. Although I don't have time to read Fiction these days.

So, if I am the most uneducated person in the world, everyone else better have Doctorates. So, how about you?

Baha'i what is that? What an insult to all religion! Only a weak-minded liberal could possibly fall for a BS scam like that! I hope your not a follower of that!

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Jesus, Whos that? Only a weak minded person would follow him!

Mohammed, Who's That? Only a weak minded person would follow him!

Buddha, Who's that? Only a weak minded person would follow him!

Do you understand how ridiculous your statement is? Bring us some facts to support why you think only weak minded peopl follow it.

I have never hear of Baha’i and know nothing about what they ask of it’s followers. If all that it does as ask for the followers to be open minded about the different important figures in the other religions and to analyze the good in each of them then I think it would be pretty good.

Now, if all they do is promise you eternal life for following them, make wild promises they have no hope of fulfilling. Magically heal the sick, read peoples minds and then ask for donations so they can bring their spiritual healing to others. Then I most certainly agree with your statement of them being weak minded.

But don’t call them a liberal. Because without liberals you would still be shitting in the hole you dug the day before.

I can take a shot and be perfectly coherent/rational but take one draw on a joint and be completely out of my mind

I used to have a tolerance for alchohol. Now one or two shots or beers and I will feel the effect.

Secondly, have you ever smoked a cigarette? I have smoked in my life one entire cigarette with no other external factors. When I stood up I could barely walk. I could not imagine how in the world people functioned after smoking. I certainly would not want to drive after that cigarette.

My point is that any substance can create an unctrollable effect on a person. According to your logic we should ban any substance that makes you go loony.

As far as this country being founded on Christian ideals??? I guess that is why Slavery was supported for over 200 years in North America. I guess Christian ideals is why Native Americans were killed without cause and had their lands taken. I guess Christian values is why hundres of people were killed in witch trials.

I hear alot of people talking about christian values but yet I see very few of them actually following them.

I cannot base my decision upon how the company I work for business is doing because we do alot of Government work and the wars are good for our business.

I read an article about a month ago indicating that the value of the US dollar has not only declined against other currencies, it has also started to lose favor amoung criminal organizations.

In the past the US dollar was the preferred currency for Black Markets, Orginized Crime and street merchants everywhere. Everybody knew the US dollar. Knew it was strong and that anyone in anycountry would accept it. Now alot of these people are switching to using the Euro. I don't know about you, but when the people who really know the value of a US dollar start switching to using the Euro, that worries me.

And if it is, don't you think she's in a nightmarish condition?

Yeah, I believe that is Purgatory.

For one, I have never smoked marajuana.

Two great examples of countries governed by religion are:

Iran and the Taliban ruled Afghanistan.

I believe that religion has its place. Religious organizations do alot of good in this country. They also do alot of bad as well under the guise of religion. I think that regligion belongs in our schools. All religion. If Religious studies were allowed in shcools I think there would be alot fewer problems in the world.

Starfish, are you able to formulate your own opinions or do you always rely upon quotes from others.

There is no safety, no liberty, no freedom, in a country that is not governed by morality.

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I think you have morality and criminal mixed up.

mo·ral·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (m-rl-t, mô-)

n. pl. mo·ral·i·ties

The quality of being in accord with standards of right or good conduct.

A system of ideas of right and wrong conduct: religious morality; Christian morality.

Virtuous conduct.

A rule or lesson in moral conduct.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=morality

crim·i·nal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krm-nl)

adj.

Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.

Relating to the administration of penal law.

Guilty of crime.

Characteristic of a criminal.

Shameful; disgraceful: a criminal waste of talent.

n.

One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime.

I would also define criminal is performing an act that either directly or indirectly affects another person.

According to our laws you can commit a crime against yourself. Example: it is illegal to smoke Marajuana. If you are alone in your house when you are smoking are you causing a problem to anyone else? I think not. I am sure you will bring up all of the problems that smoking Pot can cause to your friends relatives etc. The same can be said of alchohol and that is legal.

Killing or robbing somebody has nothing to do with morality because morality is very subjective. I don't know anybody that thinks that killing another person for no reason is ok.

I do know plenty of people that think smoking pot or prostetution is ok. I am not saying they do them but they see no problem with others doing if they so feel.

A government regulated by morality is a government that is run by religion. That is a very bad thing.

I have no need for Prostitutes or Drugs.

I do believe that niether myself or anyone else has the right to regulate morality and that is exactly what is keeping prostitution and drug use illegal. Goverment laws regulating Morality.

Arguing about the Iraq war and WMD's reminds me of an old, well not that old Russian Proverb.

My Russian is very rusty so I had to use the Fish.

Не будет правды в весточке и не будет весточек в правде

Translated: There is no Truth in the News and there is no News in the Truth.

Actually most of the church people I know are also the least moral people I know.

I will certainly concur with that.

I was fortunate enough to go to a very good Private School. While the school itself was affiliated with the Episcipal church it had no limitations upon who could attend. We did have a weekly chapel service but very few times did we actually have religious activities. We were required to take courses on the bible and christianity but we also had to take course on all other religions too.

To me the people that fight for religion to be taught in school are only fighting because they want only THEIR religion to be taught. If you told them that teaching Christianity also meant teaching Islam or Hindu they would rather have nothing.

It is exactly the same as seggrigation. When integration was tried many parents pulled their kids from school rather than allow them to be taught next to persons of Color.

In my book you can through out entirely the first four lines, move the fifth line to last and put no killing at the front. Then you have a good basis for a set of rules to live by.

No no no. You have it all wrong.

Democrat: Stop or I will shoot. ------> Bang.

Republican: Bang Bang ------> Stop or I will Shoot.

Souther Republican: Bang Bang Bang ------> Thank you God for granting me the ability to take that things life. I offer to you this heathen that threatend your flock as a showing of our loyalty. Oh, look honey that Knife was plastic and that was a Halloween costume. Quick, run to the car and grab a real knife to put in his hand before the police arrive.

People vote things into law and we abide by them. Now it seems that unelected people can now disregard those laws and impose their personal opinion on the rest of the country. I don't know about you, but that makes me very nervous.

If I recall, that is how GW became president the first time.

Honestly, I think the Death Penalty should be used more often. First, let all of these people out of jail for Marajuana and Prostetution. Really, what.

Keep people in jail that commit Rape, Murder, or other physical crimes against others. If they are convicted of a crime and their sentance is more than 30 years they automatically are put on death row. Allow 3 appeals over five years. After 5 years use a .22 round to the back of the head. If they survive, let them free.

Make most if not all drugs Legal. Regulate and Tax them like Alchohol and penis. Instead of losing Billions from trials, jails and evaded taxes States will make Billions on tax revenue.

Make Prostitution Legal. Regulate and Tax them. Put them under the Department of Health or the National Park service. Instead of costing money to prosecute and imprison the states will make Millions. Reduce STD's like AIDS because all Brothels would require regular testing and protection.

Last time I checked, the Republican party was FOR the Death Penalty. And the state where Dubaya comes from executes more people than any other state.

I don't think there is one single Democrat that believes in abortion as the First Option / Only Option / or Preferred Option. They believe that it is the Womans choice to decide if Abortion is an Option. That is all they ask, give A person the right to Choose.

What is wrong with allowing yourself to be killed if your medical condition will not improve, you are going to die anyway and living will only cause more and more pain. Not to mention more medical bills that either their family or the Taxpayers will have to pay. Possibly leading to bankruptcy of a family which now because of Republicans most people will either not qualify for or will still have to repay a large sum of the balance.

They will fight to protect the rights of that Dirtbag because they know they want the same to be done for them. There are plenty of people in this country that are falsely accused of a crime. The problem with our society is that when somebody is accused they are automatically assumed Guilty until proven Innocent.

For a party that is supposedly against Big Government, wants less Government over individual rights, it sure appears to me that they want the Government to dictate every little thing you can do with your life.

When 200,000 people died in a Tsunami GW decides it is not important to act immediately and waits two days before acting.

However he decides it is important to attempt to save the life of somebody that is medically brain dead and immediately flies back to Washington to assist the cause. Then you have the idiotic Majority leader saying he reviewed tapes of her condition and says, hey she looks ok to me. I think whatever school issued his medical diploma should revoke it.

In reality the Democrats are the party of Life. Because they feel you should be able to live that life anyway you see fit.

Republicans are the party of death. Because they feel you should live your life according to their rules. If you don't then you are Un American, Un Wise or Un Wanted.

Remeber the Saying, "Give me liberty or give me death." Well, the Republicans are taking away our liberty so all that is left is death.

Interesting to note that once again the Republicans remain the party of liberty and of life. Democrats remain the party of abortion, euthanasia, assisted suicide – the party of death! Unless of course that person is a terrorist or other society ne'er do well, than they will fight to protect that dirtbag with fervor.

Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."

  --  Winston Churchill

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They seem to be the only sense of reason in North America.

I also blame 25-50% of Bush's vote on the fact that most of those rich people know darn well know bush is better for them keeping their own money and don't really care what happens to anyone elses, if it makes you feel better.

I think this is very true. Then you have another 25% of the people that only voted for Bush because he is a Christian. Just like the guy in the other Thread saying he is a traditional family guy and believes in Jesus.

I don't know about you, but all of the people I know that voted for Kerry have at least a College degree and some have Masters or Doctorates.

Also, when you look at the map all you see is how the majority voted, not what the percentage is. When you consider the vote was very close to 50/50 that map is very deceiving.

and what the colors might mean (according to the Washington Post, 2004):

"(Blue Voters)most likely to be found among highly educated women, non-churchgoers, union members and the “cosmopolitans” of the New York area, New England and California.

(Red Voters) older, more likely to be married, less likely to join a union, more likely to be regular churchgoers—mostly at Protestant churches—far more likely to be “born again” Christians...

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http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~sara/html/mappin...4/election.html

Somebody should beat the mother. Thinking that "That's for adults who murder and kill."

I would hate to be her husband.

Oh wait, he is proabably in handcuffs for murdereing and killing somebody.

did you say tulsa? you live near T-town?

Yep. Lived in Aslut all my life.

BTW, I met a friend of yours that owns a repair shop in Norman. AutoX a 79-80 Mazda RX-7.

Ran into him at Divisionals in Topeka this year. He is good friends with alot of my Racing pals from Tulsa.

My .02 cents.

If you live in a state that Permits Concealed Carry for citizens that qualify, then you should have the right to carry that firearm ANYWHERE in that state.

If, an employer or merchant or government facility does not approve of citizens carrying a firearm at their location then they should be required to have a "Gun Check" when you enter their location. Meaning they have a physical room with a physical person that accepts, tags and then holds your firearm while you are on the premises. After all, the reason most people carry their weapon is for safety to and from their automobile.

For instance. If I want to go to an arena football game in Tulsa I have to park Downtown on at night or on a weekend. To me when I need the most protection is when I am walking the streets of Downtown from my car to the game and back. Once I am at the game I doubt anything will occur, and once I am to my car I could either drive off or I would have a firearm in my car.

So, by prohibiting me to carry at the sporting event. (which under our state law is prohibited) My life is being endangered because there is no Legal way for me to abide by the law and still be protected.

Government facilities should be Required to provide this service Free of charge. Private facilites should be allowed to charge a nominal fee that is governed by the state. Say, $1.00. If they do not provide this service then they have no right to refuse a person that is carrying a concealed weapon.

I don't really care about gays in the military, but I do think that women shouldn't be on the battlefield.

Military <> Women

Military = Gay

Military = Gay Women

So, if a woman is gay does that mean you will allow her in the military?

Article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6659393/

Don't ask Don't tell has been the policy of the US military for 11 years now. At the time they changed the policy I was 18 and thought that it was the correct move. Remember, at that time women still were not allowed to server in combat positions. (no pun intended)

To me any person that wants to put their life at risk for the service of our country should have the oppertunity to do so. Whether they are gay, women, black etc. At one time or another each one of those groups was barred from service.

One of the reasons the US military does not allow gays is they feel that they will reduce the moral of the soldier. Which is basically the same reason they denied women the right. They said that a male soldier would fold in combat at the sight of a female soldier dead or wounded.

Different type of moral loss, but none the less a loss of moral.

To be politically correct . I am not a person of alternative lifestyle but I also don't think that I would be botherd by them being there. There were Homo's at my High School. There were Homo's at my college. There are even flaming Homo's at my work. So, if I were in the military why shouldn't there be Homo's there too?

By saying Homo I mean Homosexual. Not fag, queer, peter puffer, pillow biter, nancy boy, flamer or queen.

So, what do you guys think? Do you think that Gays belong in the military?