JCviggen

There is no need to increase someone's share in the vote because he or she happens to live in a less densely populated area. It goes against the principle that every person is equal.

regardless of who got elected the last time, i think the electoral college is a bad thing. Creating an inequality between one person's vote and another's is plain wrong IMHO.

something funny i found on another forum to balance out the thread

this is funny in a sad kinda way :lol:

However its very long so I guess you should only read this if you're more than superficially interested in politics. But its quite an insightful and unbiased article, and something everyone should read I think. At least those who like to think they know a lot about the war and stuff http://www.ocnus.net/artman/publish/article_14240.shtml small quote

odd.

lol will do Well I'm not sure why the voter turn-out is so much larger here...I can tell you though that Belgium, as one of the only countries in the world, has mandatory voting. So every person over 18 officially HAS to vote. Of course there's 2 or 3% who cant for various reasons, but they need to back it up with paperwork I hope they'll abolish this soon...its rediculous.

I was exaggerating a little...either way, they are hardly being very open about what they intend to do about certain things. Issues are being avoided with the typical re-iteration of things everybody already knows. There should be more people like you then! I have noticed it is an extremely touchy subject to talk about with Americans. Especially on the internet it is nearly impossible to have a meaningful constructive discussion about political issues. It always turns into a flamefest after post #3 or earlier. I've actually noticed that site factcheck.ORG is extremely useful and rarely unbiased. I would suggest everybody read up on that site after each debate to see who was actually wrong about what. Both sides always make a string of factual errors, which could well be important issues for some voters. Belgium Which is by a stroke of luck right next to the Nürburgring I've lived nearly a year in Denmark though and my girlfriend is Russian...if that makes any sense :lol:

I'm going to tread carefully here, since I'm not a US citizen or anything. That doesnt mean however that I'm not in a good position to observe things. I actually watched the Kerry vs Bush debate even though it was at 3 frikkin AM in the morning. What "actual content" are you talking about, when referring to Bush? It seemed to me Bush is mainly annoyed by the fact there's an election coming up "We're doing such a fine job just leave us alone and stop asking questions!". I'm by NO MEANS a fan of Kerry. He's just another bozo the Democrats pulled out of the fridge. But I have not seen anything even remotely convincing from the Bush camp, aside from the fact they are "rock solid" on their points and not "flip-flopping". That's commendable, but I would think even the most vivid Bush supporters can acknowledge things arent all going as smooth as they could be going. Holding onto your points is fine but situations change, and you cant always just look blindly in front of you ignoring everything else around you. The flip-flop thing is exaggerated anyway. If Kerry had been in Bush's position back when he voted FOR the war he probably wouldnt have done exactly the same. Anyway, if I was an American citizen I'd probably vote for Kerry. Reason being that the Bush administration have (IMHO) shown that they're not the most capable leadership. Not that everything is automatically their fault, but still. Wether Kerry is better you honestly cant say in advance. You just cant, there is insufficient information to come to a conclusion. Based on that I'd vote Kerry just to CHANGE, possibly for the better, unlikely for the worse. The biggest problem that I see is that in the US, it doesnt matter exactly which puppet the Dem & Rep party put forward. One of them is going to end up in the whitehouse anyway. The most capable person in the world (US in this case) could run for president, if he wasnt in the Dem or Rep party he wouldnt get 10% of the votes... Anyway...whenever I go on one of these rants I get dismissed as not "knowing how the system works" and being stupid, moronic, without a clue...you name it! Personally I like to think that being on the outside gives me a way better perspective than most American voters will ever have. And lets face it, very few people vote for a candidate's political programme. Most of you bashing Kerry in this thread would be bashing the Democrats no matter how much sense they would make.