not intimidating, just dumb. u may just want to push a button to make somthing happen but do u think about all the control units and relays, wiring and etc, that it will take to make it happen. all of those can cause problems and are very costly. never said all s80 are bad, most that i have seen, which is many, in 99-00 have caused great headaches, some have not had a problem, without saying volvo thinks so to. why did they start putting the 5cyl. in them, maybe because there have been so many problems.