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You're the joke Bro.All your Economics major rhetoric doesn't make your nonsense any more true. The truth is that most middle class retirees aren't living as you would try and suggest,and are struggling to make ends meet.Their pensions don't even come close in today's ecomony,but hopefully they were lucky enough to ride a real estate wave and squirrel some cash away from selling off the family home.I'm not sure what the view is like in Republican Fantasy-Land,but alot of the middle class doesn't live in your bubble.In my field over 12 years,I'm regularly exposed to many,many individuals and their financial portfolios,mostly middle class.For a large majority,primarily blue collar and working class white collar,their situations have worsened and their average debt ratios have radically climbed over the past 4-5 years.In most cases this isn't due to frivilous spending or unsound financial practices.Dramatically higher costs of living and no increase in wage/salary are the main factors. It's selfish right-wing drones like yourself that scare me more than any tax-happy Democrat.Hopefully someday you'll be able to see things for what they are,and not just straight down partisan lines.

As much as I'd agree with you on premise,the average middle class American isn't the one subsidizing his income and making big $$$ investing. And I have one word to explain why the Dow is where it is....401k.....and similar mutual funds..And most of these are being invested by investment groups on behalf of corporations that have scrapped pensions in luei of a 401k type retirement.Many of these are Fortune 500 companies that screwed the older employee out of their pensions with the laughable goverment funded pension program(another bone thrown to big business)that gives the employee pennies on the dollar for his hard earned pension monies.The rest of the employess won't see this 401k money until they are 63 or better,and it's all just pie in the sky until then.Except that it keeps over-valuing the Dow.

All your stats are skewed,bogus numbers that die-hard Republicans love to tout. Inflation numbers are heavily slanted,and aren't an accurate snapshot of the economy with respect to the middle class. Unemployment numbers only look low because the benefits have been limited to 6 months with no extensions,and the unemployment figures only reflect those actually collecting unemployment. The Dow is all about big business,and is more of a direct representation of how much special interest group,Fortune 500 ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD is kissed by the current adminstration,especially at election time. You want a true barometer on the economy.Try asking the average true middle class American in their 60's or 70's when they had it better...today...or any time in the past 50 years.

I don't usually vote along partisan lines specifically,but the Republicans are driving voters away with their joke of a political strategy.You almost don't have any choice but to vote Democrat,unless of course you're too brainwashed and ignorant to make your own decisions.How can you trust a party to facilitate any positive change,if they can't even make it look like they're at least trying to do a good job while they control the White House and the House of Reps.

LOL!I'm not a Supporting Member any more and I'm back to being a pimp/rapper instead of the Cornerstone.But the new format does look and work really nice.Good job Chaz.

Just shoot Foley and put him out of his misery.Having thoughts like that I'm sure he wants to eat the bullet,he's just too scared to do it.Deviant old Republican pedophile.

It is pretty much a direct bolt on.The only diffs I believe are the fogs and their connectors,and the styrofoam bumper support is a slighlty different shape,but will work.Matt(saffron98)has done the conversion and can prolly help you out with a headsup if you contact him.

All looks pretty nice...except those PBR ceramics.SQQUUUEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!

No sweat Rod.I'm South Jersey by default. Been lifting trucks and off-roading since the age of 2.

Nah....go the other way. imagine..... 4" of lift 33"x 12.50" BGF Mud Terrains 4" fender flares front mounted winch and full skid plates LSD air lockers front and back Yeeee Haaa!! :D

B)--> QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 11 2006, 09:50 PM) ←Meh, I have no issue's with what anyone's religous beliefs are........infact I find them quit amusing You said "discuss",so I was discussing!! What's with the wagon in your sig?Did I miss something?Don't tell me your not riding a bike any more.

Don't get off on a tangent.The majority of the newer Christain based churches urge all members to question what they don't understand.Most of the members I and know are more than interested in and willing to discuss religion and their beliefsand disbeliefs.I belong to a couple men's groups at my church(including the Car Ministry),and when we get together alot of it's about question and answer sessions,and debates about an interpretation of the Bible and/or a certain aspect of religion.Kinda like Pegs vs. Volans,or LPT vs. HPT.I think Grant's post and your statements are extreme examples of the subject.And as far as believing what you're told without question,that's an old school thought process of many of the straight and narrow religions like Catholicism and Judiaism,but even some of the newer priests and rabis are loosening up.Bottom line is there are crazies and radicals in every aspect of life,not just religion.

B)--> QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 5 2006, 05:01 PM) ←Judge Judy is what I believe in Grant's supreme being! :lol:

B)--> QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 5 2006, 03:25 PM) ←Who is this god person you keep speaking of? You can call him whatever you like,and if you have a little faith,he'll listen.If you have a little more faith you'll actually know he's listening.

B)--> QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 4 2006, 11:17 PM) ←Give me a break. I believe in proof. There is no proof that a person named god created this universe. If you have proof of this person then by all means show it to me. And if there is a God that I will meet in the end then and he is upset with me for any reason then I will simply ask him where was he when I was doing these things that made him upset, and who in the hell is he to point his non living finger at me If you want to believe what these child raping people tell you then go for it, as for me I need proof. Come on Grant.Some of this stuff you're saying has to be some of the stupidest nonsense you've ever spouted, whether you have faith or not. I can understand some of your lack of faith,which BTW since you don't get it,is loosely defined as believing in something you don't have proof of .Homosexuals haven't particularly been embraced by the church,and countless scandals with Catholic priests and their homosexual pedofile practices are enough plant a seed of doubt in the mind of even the firmest of believers.But God won't give you proof of anything unless you open your heart and your eyes wide enough to actually accept it.That's the beauty of faith and spirituality,and that's how rewarding it becomes to find proof within yourself about something that noone else in the world can prove to you. And times they are a changing bro,and tho my non-demoninational church doesn't specifically endorse homosexuality as they don't pre-marital sex,we have numerous gay members and unmarried members with children that have been baptized by the church.Spirituality/religion is what you make it,not what somebody else makes it for you. :)

B)--> QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 4 2006, 05:42 PM) ←You honestly think THAT is the stupiedst thing I have said , do you ever read my posts Good point! But with regards to creation I think it is you that is fooling himself my friend. :)

B)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Plan B @ Sep 4 2006, 10:59 AM) ←</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> It's the same people that think "god" created the earth that think homosexuality is a choice

Easy there Hitler! :lol:

WTF :ph34r:

The noob has spoken!! :P

Arrggghhhh! Saffron blasphemy!

You hittin the crack pipe again Pras? :P

:lol:

As I was saying...that piece is the cool air exhaust tube for the computer box. :P

Couldn't have said it better myself.