I'm going to tend to agree with Ilya. I do not visit VS as much as I used to. From my point of view, the forums are overrun with posts about projectors and hids, how dark my tint should be, and Butt tickler threads of god knows what. At any given time there are multiple posts about putting 16ts on LPTs, speedtuning chips, where can I find a 19t, etc.... I also don't really like the way the site is run from an administrative standpoint. While I respect Charles' right to do what he wants with his site, I think it turns off some people, myself included. A good example of this is the for sale section. I don't like having to pay a supporting member fee to use certain features of the forum. Supporting the site should either be mandatory to sign up, or completely optional. Making me be a supporting member to use the for sale feature only turns me away. I don't think I am a cheap-jerk either. I've spent money on my cars and I've given money to Turbobricks over the years because they don't ask for it, or require it to use the forums to their full extent. Perhaps I'm just getting grumpy in my old age (28). I do love Volvo's, what they stand for, and the fact that they are different. But the juvenile attitude here leaves me with the wrong taste in my mouth.