JHEIII874T5M Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 so what does everyone think on racial profiling? Something that's just common sense based on the fact that the percentage of crimes committed by minorities is the largest, or ignore the facts and be politically correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 so what does everyone think on racial profiling? Something that's just common sense based on the fact that the percentage of crimes committed by minorities is the largest, or ignore the facts and be politically correct?←Heres my take. I am gonna pick on spanish americans sense you started this OK: If a cop stops and searches a car full of Spanish Americans leaving a crack house and one of the guys was seen walking to the car with a gun. In FL there is nothing legaly wrong with that senerio. But I am ok with cops doing a stop under the guise of "probable cause". I also said stop, not beat down.Not ok: Stopping a car load of Spanish Americans because they are in a rich neighborhood and there have been break ins lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 well put, we have alot of issues w/ this and straight up racism here in the buck-huntin' south kakilaki, i shouldnt talk about this but at my store one of my employees had the stuff fired out of him for using a certain common yet derogitory term infront of another employee, who the term was directly offensive against. hwo stupid can you be, the guy is like twice his size too, im glad i didnt ahve to break up a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachRat Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I think a good definition to make would be the difference between sterotyping and racial profiling. Are we looking at the same thing? I think not. Stereotyping: Seeing a beat up pickup-truck with 12" rims sticking way out of the wheel well, chrome, multi-spoke and small tires. You assume the driver is Mexican. If you live out here, you're probably right.Racial Profiling: Per Mr Admin, stopping a car full of minorities in a wealthy neighborhood because of "probable cause." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 well put, we have alot of issues w/ this and straight up racism here in the buck-huntin' south kakilaki, i shouldnt talk about this but at my store one of my employees had the stuff fired out of him for using a certain common yet derogitory term infront of another employee, who the term was directly offensive against. hwo stupid can you be, the guy is like twice his size too, im glad i didnt ahve to break up a fight.←What does that have to do with racial profiling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHEIII874T5M Posted December 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 thanks Greg.yea... while there is a difference between stereotyping and racial profiling, in essence one is using their stereotypes to profile racially... in the end the same thing takes place.Do you feel law enforcement agencies should be able to do so based on the fact that the largest percentage of crimes are caused by minorities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhoeve Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 yea... while there is a difference between stereotyping and racial profiling, in essence one is using their stereotypes to profile racially... in the end the same thing takes place.Do you feel law enforcement agencies should be able to do so based on the fact that the largest percentage of crimes are caused by minorities?←No. Racial profiling is a violation of the most fundamental tenets of civil rights. That among those being personal liberty.Abridging civil rights is never the answer. It's just fascism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHEIII874T5M Posted December 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 so in an airport, between 12 people there are 8 arabs and 4 spanish grandmothers... would you like to be fair and have 3 of the 4 hispanic grandmothers and 3 of the 8 arabs checked? that way we're fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhoeve Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 you have 2 choices.1. check them all2. check them randomlyyou have to understand you cannot abridge civil rights in any way, EVER. it is the first step toward fascism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 you have 2 choices.1. check them all2. check them randomlyyou have to understand you cannot abridge civil rights in any way, EVER. it is the first step toward fascism.←LOLOLOLOL I love that quote. I totally agree with it in theory. But do you realize where we live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 based on the fact that the percentage of crimes committed by minorities is the largest, or ignore the facts and be politically correct?←Is this actually true? I'm not saying your're wrong Joeseph, I'm just wondering if there are any stats on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHEIII874T5M Posted December 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 bwahahahaha Ken... please never apply for a job with airport security Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsat Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 No No No.You strip the 8 Arabs naked. Make them pose in demeaning ways while the 4 spanish GMa's watch.Then you go over and demand all of the film from the Japanese tourists and point them towards Disneyland.Once everything is finished you put the arabs on a military flight to Gitmo and hold them prisoner as terrorists.Then give the 4 spanish grandmas a bottle of pledge and a rag and tell them to clean your house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHEIII874T5M Posted December 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 ^^ you sir need to work security :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhoeve Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 LOLOLOLOL I love that quote. I totally agree with it in theory. But do you realize where we live?←Sure do. In a country with a constitution and a formidable bill of rights.All I'm saying is find another way to get the bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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