Che'_Moderator Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 drinkng age varys everywhere you go. In ontario Canada its 19 and varies by province. Its lorta like how old do ya have to be before you drive, that also changes from place to place. I think the age should be determined by the society you are in, it then becomes the norm. And of course you drink before yer of age and drive before yer of age. So the age just serves a purpose of limiting you to not drinking in public as i see it. Also it allows for somewhat adult supervision since you must get someone over the age "doesnt include fake id". There can be an arguement to lower the age easily example: gun at 17 driving just before 18, pron at 18, then finally comes drinking at 19. So would you trust a kid with a gun before pron or booze?←Wait wait wait. Let me get this straight. You can own a gun before your allowed to drive? Whoa. Let me think. Ok, I don't trust your ass with a car, but I am going to give you booze and a gun. Boom!!! I don't think so. Crazy nanook ah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 i know personally i was alot more harmless when young and not evne old enough to drive at night when i experimented w/ getting drunk. if i had started to drink when older i think i would of been at more risk to do something stupid. younger kids(15-17) simply cant handle the alcohol and usually have a bad experience, straying them from using it as much as if it were a great experience. i agree whole heartedly about it being better than kids turning to harder drugs, unfortunately thoguh of the people i know who do drugs, specifically harder ones(read: not pot) they all drink just as much or more than i do as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheheel Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 i think for the most part it's much ado about nothing. i am definitley not a drinker, because you could count all of the differnt drinks i've had on two hands. if the drinking age was 18, that would be different, but it really doesn't make much difference to me either way. i turn 21 in 5 months, and i will drink, but it will be so little that it doesn't even really count. i like the taste of beer, but i definitley don't like the buzz after a few of them. drinking to get drunk i think is pretty dumb, but that's just my opinion. i just can't stand not being completly lucid and in 100% control of my faculties.having said that, i do wish i could drink legally right now just because i enjoy the taste of beer. but like i said, i'm in no hurry. as for the right age, i think it should be younger than 21, but older than 18. i have matured so much since i was 18. i was a little wreckless punk then and that was just two years and some change ago. maybe 19 at least and 20 at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted December 25, 2004 Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 i think for the most part it's much ado about nothing. i am definitley not a drinker, because you could count all of the differnt drinks i've had on two hands. if the drinking age was 18, that would be different, but it really doesn't make much difference to me either way. i turn 21 in 5 months, and i will drink, but it will be so little that it doesn't even really count. i like the taste of beer, but i definitley don't like the buzz after a few of them. drinking to get drunk i think is pretty dumb, but that's just my opinion. i just can't stand not being completly lucid and in 100% control of my faculties.having said that, i do wish i could drink legally right now just because i enjoy the taste of beer. but like i said, i'm in no hurry. as for the right age, i think it should be younger than 21, but older than 18. i have matured so much since i was 18. i was a little wreckless punk then and that was just two years and some change ago. maybe 19 at least and 20 at most.←that's a dam good point, the amount that you mature from the age of 18 to 21 is huge. I know I did. I do think there is a big difference between drinking for the sake of getting drunk, (takes swig of corona) and just having some beers with friends to unwind. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 yea i agree, unwinding, and unloading your spleen on someone's kitchen floor and not remembering it are two different things hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvolvoR Posted December 26, 2004 Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 i dont know about the whole underage drinking thing, but i am 17 and i could drink anytime if i wanted to (although there is the whole parents thing), but i choose not to cause in my mind I think it is more fun to watch the idiot friends drink 40s and laugh at them when they are drunk. my idea of this was further bolstered when me and a bunch of people from my school went to europe over the summer. yes I did have a beer or two when I was there but that was it, because I wasnt in the same mind frame as some of the others in my group which I could tell were going to become alcaholics in their later lives from just they way they treated alcahol when they had free enough access to it. when i saw people like this it made me not want to drink actually. it just has a different affect on each person. I could honestly say that if the drinking age was lower, i would not care all that much because I wouldnt treat it stupidly, I might have a drink or a beer every once and a while but I wouldnt be drinking to get drunk like my idiot friends do, one of which whose older brother is an alcaholic.dont really know where Im going with this but the drinking age only matters to those who drink to get drunk in my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyROZen Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 i can honestly say i've been drinking (for partying sake) since i was about 14. I've seen alot of people do dumb stuff over the years but I place it in their hands and not alcohol. Alcohol will make a smart person act stupid, and a stupid person act like a feckin retard. It doesn't matter how old you are, if you can't tell when your hammered, you shouldn't be drinking. btw, as of now im only 20, but i've been drinking at family functions since i was 17. guess thats what you get for having a grandpa who retired at Anhauser-Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyROTech Posted December 27, 2004 Report Share Posted December 27, 2004 (edited) i can honestly say i've been drinking (for partying sake) since i was about 14. I've seen alot of people do dumb stuff over the years but I place it in their hands and not alcohol. Alcohol will make a smart person act stupid, and a stupid person act like a feckin retard. It doesn't matter how old you are, if you can't tell when your hammered, you shouldn't be drinking. btw, as of now im only 20, but i've been drinking at family functions since i was 17. guess thats what you get for having a grandpa who retired at Anhauser-Busch.←glad we can finally hear from the experts :lol: Edited December 27, 2004 by PyROTech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricF Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 For this subject, I like the Germans' ideas.Drinking at 14, driving at 18.... Driving is a much greater responsibility than drinking. I think most people would agree that the glamour of drinking excessively usually fades after the first year or two after you've started drinking. I would much rather not be able to drive during that learning curve than otherwise.Case in point, I started driving when I was 15-16, and started drinking when I was 17-18. I got a DUI when I was 19 that was totally my fault. I think it could have been different though if I'd have had more exposure to alcohol beforehand and made to appreciate driving more than I did at the time.So yeah, go Germany! Michael Schumacher for king of the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 I definitely don't think people should be drinking before they are driving though. Even if you could drink before you could drive I think they would need to keep the 0% BAC rule for minors. After driving for a while more and more responses to bad situations become second nature and require less thought because you already know what to do.If your response time is slowed you are definitely going to need that extra instinct.To answer the main question, underage drinking is not bad, the stupid things underage drinkers do are bad. As a result, people who are underage in general should not drink. You can't pick out the responsible ones and say "go ahead and drink because you're more responsible." It just wouldn't work. Otherwise I'd say that would be the way to go. Give them a lie detector test.Q1: Would you ever drink and drive?Q2: Is X number of beers too much?etc etc etc.If they are honest and pass as not being idiots they can drink unsupervised by adults once they turn 16. If they are supervised and don't leave the supervised area they may drink at the age of 12. Glass of whine with dinner, you know, that sort of thing.There's my idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted December 28, 2004 Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 Wait wait wait. Let me get this straight. You can own a gun before your allowed to drive? Whoa. Let me think. Ok, I don't trust your jerk with a car, but I am going to give you booze and a gun. Boom!!! I don't think so. Crazy nanook ah.←I thought a private citizen can't own a gun in canadia, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleV Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 I thought a private citizen can't own a gun in canadia, period.←Isn't Canada big on Hunting? I think maybe you can't own assult weapons or handguns, but I'm pretty sure hunting riffles are legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibim Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 (edited) Drinking is one of those things that people can or cant do. Yeah, it makes relativly intellegent people act stupid and stupid people act even worse, but there's also tollerence levels. For example, my boss, can drop a 6pack of beer, and no-one would notice. I can have 1/2 a spirit cooler, and not be able to find my own car, even if it was the only one in the parking lot. With regards to underaged drinking, define drinking. I don't feel there's harm in a 16y/o having a beer. But I do think there's a problem with a 16y/o having 6, every weekend, for 'fun'. Everything in moderation. Same applies to speeding/eating/working/sex/everything. Edited December 29, 2004 by Kibim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Everything in moderation. Same applies to speeding/eating/working/sex/everything.←"quess which one of the above words doesn't belong in that sentence." What's interesting is how in Canada you can be 19 to drink.. In the US it's 21..(duh) When I was in college we would cross the border and go drinking in Canada.. since it was like 20 min away.... I would say, "mom, but it's legal there".. haha. kinda wierd/stupid situation.. I mean, I could drive 20 min to CA, and drink legally, but I couldn't in the town I lived in.. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted December 29, 2004 Report Share Posted December 29, 2004 Drinking is one of those things that people can or cant do. Yeah, it makes relativly intellegent people act stupid and stupid people act even worse, but there's also tollerence levels. For example, my boss, can drop a 6pack of beer, and no-one would notice. I can have 1/2 a spirit cooler, and not be able to find my own car, even if it was the only one in the parking lot. With regards to underaged drinking, define drinking. I don't feel there's harm in a 16y/o having a beer. But I do think there's a problem with a 16y/o having 6, every weekend, for 'fun'. Everything in moderation. Same applies to speeding/eating/working/sex/everything.←alcohol makes me smarter! So much so, I do everything drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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