Chilled man Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 You are attacking opinions other than your own. Calling people stupid for not agreeing with your opinion and having one of their own is bigotry. Making the person a bigot. Bigot Don't pull the "smart" card, HVAC school doesn't teach you that much. And I'm sure that "it's the internet, who cares how you spell" will be a rebuttal. A hypocrite is one who speaks of doing or acting in one way, then does the opposite. Saying what makes a celebrity so special and bitching about how they have $$. and then buying their products is hypocritical. Being a hypocrite is not specific to a court setting. Being on a jury and letting someone go who is guilty is a lack of integrity in upholding what is right and what is wrong. Enlighten me as to the proper use of bigot while you're at it. Sorry your wrong like usual My opion is 100% correct while yours 100% wrong dont even try this BS with me . If you want to keep thinking that Celebs should keep getting away with murder and child molestation you go right on ahead with that. You and people with your views are the reason why society is on the way down. Hey hes poplulare why should he serve time for what he did ahhh I feel bad for him. The thinking behidn that is just pure vile and disgusting. Keep living your life like that and hopefully someone rich does something evil to your life and then you might change your view. Buying there products is totaly different and I mean 100% differnt then letting them out of jail due to I like them. How that is hypocirtal is a joke. And there is not a single child molester CD in my house and I do go out of my way to make sure not to view or support anyone or anything that are corrupt or disgustling like him.So I am bigot due to for the facts that are there ? And I hypocrite sicne I dont buy or support people like him . wow I guess I was wrong lol NO 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s70turbo1998 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Sorry your wrong like usual My opion is 100% correct while yours 100% wrong dont even try this BS with me . If you want to keep thinking that Celebs should keep getting away with murder and child molestation you go right on ahead with that. You and people with your views are the reason why society is on the way down. Hey hes poplulare why should he serve time for what he did ahhh I feel bad for him. The thinking behidn that is just pure vile and disgusting. Keep living your life like that and hopefully someone rich does something evil to your life and then you might change your view. Buying there products is totaly different and I mean 100% differnt then letting them out of jail due to I like them. How that is hypocirtal is a joke. And there is not a single child molester CD in my house and I do go out of my way to make sure not to view or support anyone or anything that are corrupt or disgustling like him. I hope one day you see the irony in that. And I have not once said they should be allowed out of jail, I've said it's just the way it works...for some. But this is like arguing with the beating off baby from The Hangover. It's hysterical. You definitely know your shit about Volvos, but you're as dumb and dense as a rock. On a side note, are you applying to the Harrisburg PD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I hope one day you see the irony in that. And I have not once said they should be allowed out of jail, I've said it's just the way it works...for some. But this is like arguing with the beating off baby from The Hangover. It's hysterical. You definitely know your shit about Volvos, but you're as dumb and dense as a rock. On a side note, are you applying to the Harrisburg PD? How will I ever see the irony in that ? Tell me please explain that to me ? Sicne I will be some day be rich and kill someone and then go hey I have money let me off ? And my whole arguement is why ? Why should we continoue to let this happen ? Why shoudl this type of scum be let free when any normal person this happens to isnt ? You know I might be able to understand anything your saying if you and everyone else here on VS wasnt in the same boat you or me are in. None of us are rich or famous other wise we wouldnt be wasting our time here. So why would you even bother to defend this scum is beyond me. And yes I going for police officer since people like you would just let them off and tell them to be on there when when the do anything wrong . Someone has to contintouly fight for what the law says. Since everyone wants to just go hey give me some money and be on your way . or hey it didnt happen to me who cares, you shoudl care since you could be the next one that person runs over, randome kills or molests your younger brother or sister. ? maybe I have lived a less shelterd life then the rest of you ? who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s70turbo1998 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I mean I've been in the newspaper a few times. Again, not defending him. I am appreciating MJ's contributions to popular culture and charity. I chose to recognize one aspect of his life, the positive. You are recognizing the negative. And if you're going to defend the law, know that I can say what I want and you can say what you want, and nobody can stop either of us. Might help on your first quiz.? maybe I have lived a less shelterd life then the rest of you ? who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I mean I've been in the newspaper a few times. Again, not defending him. I am appreciating MJ's contributions to popular culture and charity. I chose to recognize one aspect of his life, the positive. You are recognizing the negative. And if you're going to defend the law, know that I can say what I want and you can say what you want, and nobody can stop either of us. Might help on your first quiz. LOL agreed. Maybe your views would change your view if you have had family molested ? Think about that for a bit more and what ever he did means nothing. Speak to a person whos been molested , then you views will dramiticly change. Try living / being close to someone who has , and wonder why there life is so fucked up from what the person did why they cant trust a single person regardless what help you give them, wonder why and just try to think about it for a minute what was done and what type of sick person would do that in the first place . Sorry regardless what good he did will never be worth more then the damage that was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreo931 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Justin, what about all of the stuff MJ did BEFORE the alleged molestation? Does the fact that he did, or might have molested a child or children negate all of the prior positive contributions he made in his life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s70turbo1998 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Justin knows he did. He just didn't say anything to help the poor kid out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Justin, what about all of the stuff MJ did BEFORE the alleged molestation? Does the fact that he did, or might have molested a child or children negate all of the prior positive contributions he made in his life? Everything prior I dont have that much of issue with but still do. Its everything afterwards is negated due to what he did , since we can pretty much assume ( I hate to use that word but cant think of a better one) that he did was due to feeling guilty of what he did do. Simpley once a child molester always a child molester. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s70turbo1998 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 What about the possibility that he paid off the family because he was sick of being portrayed as a child molester and just wanted the trial over with. It was settled out of court, but what was settled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Justin knows he did. He just didn't say anything to help the poor kid out. ? the payout of 23million proves his guilty with out a doubt. Simpley if you would view otherwise then why not let someone of your family sleep in his bed. If you wont that proves that regardless what you say your actions speak louder then words that he is guilty . What about the possibility that he paid off the family because he was sick of being portrayed as a child molester and just wanted the trial over with. It was settled out of court, but what was settled? Why not vidicate yourself through the court system ? Personal thats what I would do if I was not guilty . I would pay out if I was guilty . Not sure what you would do ? http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/settlements/ I dont see alot of Not Guilty People settling for sum of 20+ million for being not guilty ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s70turbo1998 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 ? the payout of 23million proves his guilty with out a doubt. Simpley if you would view otherwise then why not let someone of your family sleep in his bed. If you wont that proves that regardless what you say your actions speak louder then words that he is guilty . Why not vidicate yourself through the court system ? Personal thats what I would do if I was not guilty . I would pay out if I was guilty . Not sure what you would do ? The court system is lengthy, especially with a celebrity who is being constantly attacked by the news. The media will take the most gripping story and run with it. By settling out of court, MJ ended the whole debacle immediately, as opposed to sitting through more time under the public eye, being scrutinized by every media outlet and person who felt like they had something important to say. He had the money to end it. I think if the parents really wanted their child's problems be vindicated, they would have said no. I don't think a $$ amount can be placed on the welfare of a child. Unless the parents had other motives. Hmm---MJ invites underpriviledged kids to his theme park he built, parents (out of work/not happy with where they are at/typical scumbag scheming lowlifes) decide they can get themselves attention, and hopefully some money. Think that was a possiblity? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 The court system is lengthy, especially with a celebrity who is being constantly attacked by the news. The media will take the most gripping story and run with it. By settling out of court, MJ ended the whole debacle immediately, as opposed to sitting through more time under the public eye, being scrutinized by every media outlet and person who felt like they had something important to say. He had the money to end it. I think if the parents really wanted their child's problems be vindicated, they would have said no. I don't think a $$ amount can be placed on the welfare of a child. Unless the parents had other motives. Hmm---MJ invites underpriviledged kids to his theme park he built, parents (out of work/not happy with where they are at/typical scumbag scheming lowlifes) decide they can get themselves attention, and hopefully some money. Think that was a possiblity? The last 10 that I can see happening but the first kid discribed what MJ privates looked like. And what kind of parents are those in the first place to even let there kid stay with him ? I would say not the best example / should of ever had kids in general so yes I could see scum like that taking the money. Since obviously they didnt care about there kid in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Granted there are only a few things that I am passionate about that drives me nuts and stuff like that freak did is one of them since now it has messed up a family / close friends of my life for a long long long time / if ever she gets over it. I think a simple way to prove his guilt or innocents 100% is to find out where those kids / adults are at now. If he is guilty of just one , I woudl gurantee there still F uped from it . The person I know had it done to her over 12+ years ago and it still affects her to this very day. If not they would be living a normal life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s70turbo1998 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 White, had a lego block instead of a right testicle, and glitter down the right side of the shaft. ^See, not hard. Or who got a share of the 23 million that worked in his dressing room and may have had inside access? It's just a shame that such an iconic figure, who was dubbed 'Wacko Jacko' by the media, all while dealing with anorexia, his skin patching, childhood issues of his own, and now apparently a boatload of debt, has to have this tarnish his reputation. We don't know if he was a child molester. He certainly could have been, but there is just as much possibility that he was not. I do not envy the celebrity lifestyle. I envy the paycheck, but could you imagine getting a speeding ticket and then having people bug you about it for a month? Or a DUI, and your picture is in every magazine, people yell at you on the street, and MADD is sending you letters telling you you're a horrible person and that you're responsible for the next 15 teenage DUIs? He helped children all over the world, and his intentions were very good. He placed an emphasis on family values, and wanted to help those without those values to try and attain some level of understanding of them. His own childhood was messed up, but he did the best he could to make things work out, yet people still gave him shit. He helped millions of kids, yet everybody focuses on the one he supposedly messed with.I know someone as well by the way, very close. I don't think 23 million would have helped or could help. Certainly would make the good times better, but the rough times will always be rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 White, had a lego block instead of a right testicle, and glitter down the right side of the shaft. LOLOLOLOLOLOL now that has me LOLing thats just damn funny. And its a personal desicion to be a celeberity , they have to live with that for the rest of there life. If they cant hack it , its really easy to disappear out of the limelite also. many have with out a problem.Quesiton since I dont know the answer to and maybe someone else will . When did all his charitable work start ? Pre or post kid issues ? Again I dont know . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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