Obama Nation

[DonutsDemise]

true enough, but the usps hasnt had many years where they werent running up a deficit.

and yes i would like to see a more efficient and properly run government, but its a lot easier said than done. and as for better funded, theyve got plenty of money already. more money is not always the best idea.

the government is broke, we are on China's credit plan. more taxes = helps pay off national debt and helps to minimize any deficit or maybe even turn it into a surplus like... oh yeah, the last democratic president was able to do. not saying we don't need to make more changes, and maybe cutting free saturday delivery is a start for the usps. but higher taxes would help our situation. obama was bullshitting when he said we could cut taxes in the situation we are in.

[mrtl321]

the government is broke, we are on China's credit plan. more taxes = helps pay off national debt and helps to minimize any deficit or maybe even turn it into a surplus like... oh yeah, the last democratic president was able to do. not saying we don't need to make more changes, and maybe cutting free saturday delivery is a start for the usps. but higher taxes would help our situation. obama was bullshitting when he said we could cut taxes in the situation we are in.

But if we raise taxes, that hurts businesses which in turn have to lay off employees which then lowers business taxes and then lowers personal income taxes due to the people that were laid off, and puts them on unemployment which in turn instead of helping the situation raises the outflow instead of the inflow.

[DonutsDemise]

But if we raise taxes, that hurts businesses which in turn have to lay off employees which then lowers business taxes and then lowers personal income taxes due to the people that were laid off, and puts them on unemployment which in turn instead of helping the situation raises the outflow instead of the inflow.

and cutting spending leaves your country impotent in many areas. for example, if you cut education spending you end up with a less educated population less capable of performing skilled jobs in areas that require higher intellects. if you cut spending on public safety, crime goes up, more people die in house fires or whatever. cut health care spending and more people die because ambulances couldn't get to them or 911 lines were busy, or there weren't any hospital beds.

however, this country certainly does waste a ton of money on the military when it could be spent much more efficiently, perhaps on flack jackets for troops in afghanistan instead of the F-22 Raptor program and so forth.

unless the terrorists get 5th generation air superiority fighters of course.

[7 VII 7]

So apparently a slew of e-mails have been coming from the White House (and verified the address) to tons of people to encourage the Health Care Plan and to be heard that the Health Care Plan will be good for them and their family.... only problem is these people that are getting the e-mails NEVER EVER gave their e-mails to the White House to be on a "Mailing List" for the Health Care Reform...

So now that the White House is keeping a "list" of these e-mails... they are denying it... and of course the media is dumbing it down.... if this was Bush Administration or McCain... EVERYONE would and the media would be calling Bloody Murder.

[Aequitas_Veritas]

I might not agree with Reagan's War on Drugs, but his speech on socialized medicine seems rather applicable today

[7 VII 7]

Do people drink one drink to get drunk

or

Do people smoke one joint to get high

[7 VII 7]

So apparently a slew of e-mails have been coming from the White House (and verified the address) to tons of people to encourage the Health Care Plan and to be heard that the Health Care Plan will be good for them and their family.... only problem is these people that are getting the e-mails NEVER EVER gave their e-mails to the White House to be on a "Mailing List" for the Health Care Reform...

So now that the White House is keeping a "list" of these e-mails... they are denying it... and of course the media is dumbing it down.... if this was Bush Administration or McCain... EVERYONE would and the media would be calling Bloody Murder.

My link

100% transparency my ass

[ErikS]

Do people drink one drink to get drunk

or

Do people smoke one joint to get high

Both are psychoactive substances, so your comparison fails.

[7 VII 7]

Both are psychoactive substances, so your comparison fails.

No it does not.

Having one beer is totally different than having one joint.

[Smithwicks]

and cutting spending leaves your country impotent in many areas. for example, if you cut education spending you end up with a less educated population less capable of performing skilled jobs in areas that require higher intellects. if you cut spending on public safety, crime goes up, more people die in house fires or whatever. cut health care spending and more people die because ambulances couldn't get to them or 911 lines were busy, or there weren't any hospital beds.

however, this country certainly does waste a ton of money on the military when it could be spent much more efficiently, perhaps on flack jackets for troops in afghanistan instead of the F-22 Raptor program and so forth.

unless the terrorists get 5th generation air superiority fighters of course.

hey the Taliban is pretty sneaky, you never know. but keeping the program going was a waste of money when we haven't even used the ones that we already have...except in battling the Deceptions in Transformers

as for the taxes part. ambulances fall under emergency services which fire and police do as well. now maybe a cut in health care(Medicaid/Medicare) spending could mean that grandma/grandpa couldnt afford some kind of heart drug, etc. education is a black hole when it comes to spending. we are always promised that more money will give kids the tools to succeed and become productive citizens.

now im not advocating a cut in taxes. its just that it seems that when there is a problem, especially when involving the federal government, the immediate solution is to chuck more money at it seeing as its fast and easy and it makes for good headlines.

So now that the White House is keeping a "list" of these e-mails... they are denying it... and of course the media is dumbing it down.... if this was Bush Administration or McCain... EVERYONE would and the media would be calling Bloody Murder.

Of course they would be. Although there are more important things going on right now than this story...mainly Michael Vick going to the Eagles. Comon. (sarcasm if you were wondering)

[ErikS]

No it does not.

Having one beer is totally different than having one joint.

So I take it you only drink NA beer then?

And with your health care rants, don't you have some type of a government job, or are you privately employed?

[7 VII 7]

So I take it you only drink NA beer then?

No but I do not drink one beer to get drunk

but people smoke a joint to get high

[s70turbo1998]

So I take it you only drink NA beer then?

And with your health care rants, don't you have some type of a government job, or are you privately employed?

Dave doesn't work. He gets paid to post on VS.

[7 VII 7]

So I take it you only drink NA beer then?

And with your health care rants, don't you have some type of a government job, or are you privately employed?

I do not have a Govt Job... I am privately employed.

My dad was Govt

And my brother does not have health insurance

[DonutsDemise]

if this was Bush Administration or McCain... EVERYONE would and the media would be calling Bloody Murder.

but instead... only Fox News would call it bloody murder now because they changed their format from Fox State News Channel, supporting the President and his administration in everything they do including violating the constitution; to Fox Opposition Party News criticizing how the President has a deep seeded hatred for white people and sends unlawful emails

as for the taxes part. ambulances fall under emergency services which fire and police do as well. now maybe a cut in health care(Medicaid/Medicare) spending could mean that grandma/grandpa couldnt afford some kind of heart drug, etc. education is a black hole when it comes to spending. we are always promised that more money will give kids the tools to succeed and become productive citizens.

now im not advocating a cut in taxes. its just that it seems that when there is a problem, especially when involving the federal government, the immediate solution is to chuck more money at it seeing as its fast and easy and it makes for good headlines.

i mixed up where spending goes. but anyway, does grandma or grandpa deserve to die because they can't afford to fund the profit margins that drug companies like to see? and of course education spending is a black hole when you make rules like: "failing schools that need funding can't get funding until they stop failing"

and of course you don't just chuck more money at problems to fix them, but money is necessary. was GHW Bush wrong when he raised taxes because of how much Reagan fucked our budget (or his advisors, I am not sure how many decisions he actually made for himself considering he probably had early symptoms of Alzheimer's towards the end of his presidency)? no, he had to do it and lucky for the democrats for the 92 election he "lied," Clinton was elected and was able to build on what Bush did to balance the budget, too bad it's the other way around this time and for some reason I foresee Sarah Palin making it a priority to get stealth fighters and bombers for an Alaskan bear patrol

I do not have a Govt Job... I am privately employed.

My dad was Govt

And my brother does not have health insurance

privately employed by a gov't think-tank right?