550 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 i blame the chinese, if they hadn't invented gun powder, we wouldn't have guns now. See now you're thinking. Gotta start at the root. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 I blame mothers. If they hadn't popped out babies those babies wouldn't have grown up and shot people. We should ban mothers and the Chinese. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 And Fists cars busses people fire wind tsunamis tornados hurricanes boats the world * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Butts, you left out the butts. Guy sitting on his girlfriend's face to asphyxiate her. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Butts, you left out the butts. Guy sitting on his girlfriend's face to asphyxiate her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 I read an interesting article the other day about a guy who beat his wife to death with two banjos. The first one broke so he finished her with another. Ban assault banjos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Assault banjos - You forgot art supplies. I mean surely that's what she's going to claim the HMTD was, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 From a document purported to be from a California Department of Justice Physical Evidence bulletin: Watching that video, I'm not seeing that kind of care being taken. From the Washington State Manual of Evidence Collection (Section 7-1): SOP varies, but first priority with an active shooter is secure the scene. IE the weapons would be moved without much record and secured. Trunk or whatever. After that they would be checked and cleared. They only time I have heard of loaded weapons being transported is in the event of a malfunction. Active shooter scenario is a lot different than traditional crime scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Assault banjos - You forgot art supplies. I mean surely that's what she's going to claim the HMTD was, right? I'm not saying her and her boyfriend were right/innocent ... But they had ~7 grams of HMTD ... Thats less than the weight of 3 pennies and equals about an M80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 But they had ~7 grams of HMTD ... Thats less than the weight of 3 pennies and equals about an M80. A lot more than an M80 and more to it than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) HMTD has an RE of 0.8 and an explosive velocity of around 4,500m/s - That ranks it near the bottom of the list on RE just above regular gunpowder and an EV near the bottom of the list just over mercury fulminate. That's assuming it's pure of course. That's equivalent to a 0.015 lb gunpowder pipebomb with no pipe. An M80 in other words (I know I'm underestimating a little but it really isn't enough to do anything). Edited January 3, 2013 by Gideon35T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Not getting into this, and its effectiveness and velocity are quite a bit higher than black powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 True, this is off topic anyways. I don't think anyone is questioning legislation over homemade bombs, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 According to NPR, car pedestrian incidents are on the rise, especially in NYC and L.A. http://www.kqed.org/news/story/2013/01/03/113861/hitandrun_deaths_increase_but_culprits_hard_to_capture?source=npr&category=u.s. 3 deaths in the last three days and 2500 incidents last year in LA. They say 50% of the incidents police never find the driver. Story discusses a 16 year old kid mowed down and the driver - 18 and unlicensed - got off with 90 days community service and 3 years probation. Ban cars? Cell phones in cars? Ban young drivers? 5 years automatic prison if you kill someone with a car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Another one backing my claim: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/340113 Possibly atleast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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