lookforjoe Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 No way to reverse this gasket by accident like the separate ones, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeacock Posted September 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 11 hours ago, lookforjoe said: No way to reverse this gasket by accident like the separate ones, correct? I don't think it can be, it looks the same on either side. Learning lessons everyday! Good and bad news. The good, I'm an idiot and left 2 of the old gaskets on the head. It was about 3 weeks from the time I removed the manifold to the time I put it back on. It's also really hidden back there so I must have totally over looked it. The pretty bad. When I tried to torque down everything again I must have grabbed some material on the end of one of the studs. The nut also deformed and locked itself to the stud. SO! The hole seems toast. Perhaps try tap first, helicoil second? Does anyone know the specs of the studs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougy Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 by the looks of it , tap should do the job..not 100% since i use my tap set by eyeballing it... m8x1.25? also you need to make sure all studs are nice and snug into the head...in one pic some are sticking out more that others. also clean the exhaust ports head surface prior to putting new gasket on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeacock Posted September 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 29 minutes ago, dougy said: by the looks of it , tap should do the job..not 100% since i use my tap set by eyeballing it... m8x1.25? also you need to make sure all studs are nice and snug into the head...in one pic some are sticking out more that others. also clean the exhaust ports head surface prior to putting new gasket on. Thanks! Needed that spec info. As I was going through I was taking pictures were needed to see what was going on. If I hadn't left those 2 old gaskets in there I might have been alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookforjoe Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 23 hours ago, apeacock said: Thanks! Needed that spec info. As I was going through I was taking pictures were needed to see what was going on. If I hadn't left those 2 old gaskets in there I might have been alright. Definitely 8x1.25 studs. I'd used a thread chaser rather than a regular tap though. That, and a new stud fully seated in the head & it should be fine, they are pretty deep. LIke Doug said, make sure all studs are fully seated in head after you clean that surface!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeacock Posted September 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) On 9/25/2016 at 10:02 AM, lookforjoe said: Definitely 8x1.25 studs. I'd used a thread chaser rather than a regular tap though. That, and a new stud fully seated in the head & it should be fine, they are pretty deep. LIke Doug said, make sure all studs are fully seated in head after you clean that surface!! Some people seem to think a thread chaser only for a stud and not a hole. Is there something else I should search for apart from a tap? Lots of repair taps seem to show Heli Coil kits. Though there are some that are labeled as chasershttps://www.amazon.com/ARP-912-0001-Thread-Cleaning-Chaser/dp/B005JIQHKK/ref=pd_sbs_469_t_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DKTYNWW40PV4BRATNQGD Guess it's one of those things that has multiple names depending on who you ask. Edited September 26, 2016 by apeacock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad850 Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 8 hours ago, apeacock said: Some people seem to think a thread chaser only for a stud and not a hole. Is there something else I should search for apart from a tap? Lots of repair taps seem to show Heli Coil kits. Though there are some that are labeled as chasershttps://www.amazon.com/ARP-912-0001-Thread-Cleaning-Chaser/dp/B005JIQHKK/ref=pd_sbs_469_t_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=DKTYNWW40PV4BRATNQGD Guess it's one of those things that has multiple names depending on who you ask. I over torqued one of mine before I had a torque wrench and completely trashed one of those holes. I've since used a helicoil kit and it has been holding up great. Got it right to 18ft lbs and it didn't feel like it was going to budge at all. My engine was out of the car luckily. It may be tough depending on how much room you have back there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdog Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Used taps for thread chasers all the time; just go slow. if it starts cutting too much metal, back it out, clean out the hole, and start again.. I've also made "thread chasers" from old bolts too. Just cut one or more length-wise grooves (parallel to the bolt, 90 degrees to the threads) into the bolt (about thread depth), chase the bolt with a die, de-burr and use. You can cut the grooves with a v-shaped file, or even a die-grinder with cut-off wheel if you're careful. Works well on aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeacock Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 11 hours ago, B850 said: I over torqued one of mine before I had a torque wrench and completely trashed one of those holes. I've since used a helicoil kit and it has been holding up great. Got it right to 18ft lbs and it didn't feel like it was going to budge at all. My engine was out of the car luckily. It may be tough depending on how much room you have back there It's harder or easier to even seen the little guy depending on the time of day im looking at it. The overhang from the cover "bloom" is right in the way. 8 hours ago, gdog said: Used taps for thread chasers all the time; just go slow. if it starts cutting too much metal, back it out, clean out the hole, and start again.. ........ Works well on aluminum. Thanks for the encouragement, hoping for the best on this one. Running out of non snowy weather too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeacock Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) So started it again! Looks great. Doesn't leak oil, coolant, or air for that matter. Turbo finally has a little bit of a tint to it from heating up properly for the first time. It drives a little weird but I'm also being really careful with the throttle as it doesn't have a proper fuel pump or injectors at this point. Shot through the mirror showing the messed up hole: Lost a bit of material from in there Back on Maybe partly visible. Switched over to serrated bolts and Nord-Lock Washers. Runs and Drives! The manifold was 100% the source of the exhaust leak, it was the result of me foolishly leaving 2 old gaskets in there. Video fixing the problem and starting it for the first time with everything correctly done up. Edited September 30, 2016 by apeacock 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Hey. I met your friends at Advanced Auto on Monroe Ave in Roc. They had some great things to say about your "dope shaggin wagon". Figured I'd share. Let's catch up one of these days, eh? Gotta rep that VCOWNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeacock Posted October 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 21 hours ago, Timbo Slice said: Hey. I met your friends at Advanced Auto on Monroe Ave in Roc. They had some great things to say about your "dope shaggin wagon". Figured I'd share. Let's catch up one of these days, eh? Gotta rep that VCOWNY Small world! I agree, all down to when! They have some nice projects themselves. No wagons though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeacock Posted October 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 So it was only a matter of time before a really critical breakage was going to happen. In the process of doing the pan I had to lift the engine up pretty high on one side. This apparently was just enough to pull the fuel line down enough to come in contact with the passnger axle extension joint. Stopping at a light after getting off the highway I smelled A LOT of gas. I look around and spot no cars around me that look to be a culprit. UHOH! Drive the last 4 minutes to east-view mall about 100 miles from home, park, get out, and see the gas dripping from my wagon. I rush around and grab a towel then bleed out the remaining pressure in the line at the rail to stop it misting around my hot exhaust. The axle had worn just a tiny pin size hole in the line. Thankful it isn't burnt to a crisp and me and my buddy are not dead. Positive side of things I was able to reside my garage and give the work space a good transformation. Power! Did the siding a few weeks ago, finally got lighting in last night. 2 for starters. More later on. Thinking of 4 over the other side were the cars get parked. This was there is 2 over wherever the engine is sitting at the time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsgltr Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 what kind of wood? looks nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb5 Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Sorry to hear about the fuel leak having dealt with that far too many times it is not a fun experience. You can patch the damaged section of stock rubber/nylon line with the kit I linked in this thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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