Blunt Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 after looking at every single pics in this thread... goddamnit I need some 18"!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 300+_T5R_855 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 after looking at every single pics in this thread... goddamnit I need some 18"!!!!Here a link to the official photograhers photos of the meet.http://justjulz.photosite.com/2006VCOAWestCoastMeet/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S70 R Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 damn... wish my car was in tip top shape to be there.... looks like a good time and pras im loving your wagon@! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Über855R Posted October 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Man, I didn't take a single picture of my car at the show. It looks like no one else did either. Weird. Anybody got any pics of my car from the actual show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappo Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Man, I didn't take a single picture of my car at the show. It looks like no one else did either. Weird. Anybody got any pics of my car from the actual show? I took two. Check the link that CJ has above. There are lots of show pictures in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Autocross ResultsModified: 1st - George Haigh 850R2nd - John Pagel - 7453rd - CJ Yother - 850RStock1. Ben Huntly 8502. Carl Hockett P1800ES3. Jon Vikander x/c 70Interesting to see what you guys think about judged events. They have their own personality. When you enter a judged event and you don't win, it feels like you just got told your baby is ugly. I know. I have lost lots and lots of judged events. Imagine how all those figure skaters and ribbon dancers feel...My experience with judged car shows, as opposed to people's choice, is that generally in people's choice the red cars win. Or as my wife would say, the ones with the stuffed animals win. If a person (judge) really looks carefully at all of the cars in the field, there is some consistency and the "best" car usually wins. Best means the one that is visually the best. Judges can't look inside engines. They can only judge what they can see. Typically judged car shows evaluate cars on appearance, cleanliness and workmanship. As I looked at the cars in the 850 group, some of them were dirty, and some of the clean ones were not carefully detailed. That is going to hurt you in a judged event. The judge sometimes has little to go on in deciding which car should win. A little lack of clenliness in the engine compartment, or wear in the interior can be the deciding factor.If you are going to do judged shows, you need to know how the game is played. I really liked Pras' car. I was surprised it didn't win something, but the competition was pretty tough. if you don't win there is no need to disparage the judge. In this case, the judges were knowledgable guys who did the best job they could. Judging cars is a lot of work. It is hard to get good people to do it because they always end up taking stuff from somebody who didn't win and wants to cry about it. Personally, I like doing people's choice. It is easier for me because I just count the votes and don't have to take stuff from anybody. Fewer hurt feelings. But for a national meet it just isn't good enough. For Davis, people's choice is fine, but there needs to be a forum where people who are serious about restoration, detailing and workmanship can be judged against the competition. Anyway... I'm very glad you guys came. It was good to have you there. Contratulations on winning so many awards. You brought some really great cars.Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Über855R Posted October 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Autocross ResultsModified: 1st - George Haigh 850R2nd - John Pagel - 7453rd - CJ Yother - 850RStock1. Ben Huntly 8502. Carl Hockett P1800ES3. Jon Vikander x/c 70LeeThanks Lee, I was wondering who placed besides George. Can you post up all the other classes for the actual show also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 300+_T5R_855 Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Thanks Lee, I was wondering who placed besides George. Can you post up all the other classes for the actual show also?I will be posting the entire list along with links to several photo albums on th ggvcoa website. It should be up by Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prasamin Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Autocross ResultsModified: 1st - George Haigh 850R2nd - John Pagel - 7453rd - CJ Yother - 850RStock1. Ben Huntly 8502. Carl Hockett P1800ES3. Jon Vikander x/c 70Interesting to see what you guys think about judged events. They have their own personality. When you enter a judged event and you don't win, it feels like you just got told your baby is ugly. I know. I have lost lots and lots of judged events. Imagine how all those figure skaters and ribbon dancers feel...My experience with judged car shows, as opposed to people's choice, is that generally in people's choice the red cars win. Or as my wife would say, the ones with the stuffed animals win. If a person (judge) really looks carefully at all of the cars in the field, there is some consistency and the "best" car usually wins. Best means the one that is visually the best. Judges can't look inside engines. They can only judge what they can see. Typically judged car shows evaluate cars on appearance, cleanliness and workmanship. As I looked at the cars in the 850 group, some of them were dirty, and some of the clean ones were not carefully detailed. That is going to hurt you in a judged event. The judge sometimes has little to go on in deciding which car should win. A little lack of clenliness in the engine compartment, or wear in the interior can be the deciding factor.If you are going to do judged shows, you need to know how the game is played. I really liked Pras' car. I was surprised it didn't win something, but the competition was pretty tough. if you don't win there is no need to disparage the judge. In this case, the judges were knowledgable guys who did the best job they could. Judging cars is a lot of work. It is hard to get good people to do it because they always end up taking stuff from somebody who didn't win and wants to cry about it. Personally, I like doing people's choice. It is easier for me because I just count the votes and don't have to take stuff from anybody. Fewer hurt feelings. But for a national meet it just isn't good enough. For Davis, people's choice is fine, but there needs to be a forum where people who are serious about restoration, detailing and workmanship can be judged against the competition. Anyway... I'm very glad you guys came. It was good to have you there. Contratulations on winning so many awards. You brought some really great cars.LeeNo crying from me. I was just pointing out the age difference . I know that it's tough to judge a car just by peaking at it for 5 minutes. I knew (we all knew) that Ben was going to take the awards, and that was obvious, I would have been surprised if ANYONE would have placed higher than his car. Either way, the show was alright for me, completely different kind of crowd than I am used to. It was definitely nice meeting Lee and a couple of VS members that I hadn't met, and it was nice seeing cars besides 850's for a change! My paint is just too tough to detail compared to the richer, darker blacks and reds out there, so understandably, it's hard to notice the paint quality. And I'll be the first to admit that my engine bay was NASTY, but that's what happens when you have to remove your lower splash guard, roll your fenders, and slice away the fender liner. Everything makes a home in there lol.The only part of the meet that I didn't like PERSONALLY, is the entire "conference" and "banquety" feeling, but I guess that's the nature of the game when it's multiple days and in a land far far away.Other than that, :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Über855R Posted October 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Here is the official results straight from the VCOA president Lee Cordner, I know most of you already got this email but I figured I should add it to the thread for anyone else not a VCOA member.Concours de EleganceClass 1 – Masters ModifiedFirst Place – Jerry Palfenier, 1971 1800E (car #152)Class 2 – Masters StockFirst Place – Mike Dudek, 1973 1800ES (car #117)Second Place – Karl Grimm, 1970 1800E (car #128)Class 3 – Modified 122First Place – James Crowther, 1963 122S (car #113)Second Place – Michael Bender, 1966 122S (car #104)Third Place – Cameron Lovre, 1968 122S (car #143)Class 4 – Modified 544 - 140First Place – Gary Sellstrom, 1974 144 (car #163)Second Place – Bruce Lloyd, 1963 544 (car #141)Third Place – Hal Locke, 1962 544 (car #183)Class 5 – Modified 200 – 700 SedansFirst Place – Tim Otters, 1980 242T (car #149)Second Place – Fred Gallaher, 1981 242 (car #125)Third Place – Harry Beasley, 1982 242T (car #103)Class 6 – Modified 200 – 700 WagonsFirst Place – Dennis Hatfield, 1985 745 (car #129)Second Place – Les Baxley, 1990 745 (car #102)Third Place – Helen & Gary Lodge, 1979 265 (car #142)Class 7 – Modified 850 SedansFirst Place – George Haigh, 1997 850 R (car #130)Second Place – Doug Kauer, 1995 850 T5R (car #171)Class 8 – Modified 850 WagonsFirst Place – Ben Woodford, 1997 855 R (car #179)Second Place – C.J. Yother, Jr., 1995 855 T5R (car #182)Third Place – Jason Hooper, 1997 855R (car #132)Class 9 – Modified 1800First Place – Fran Gawronski, 1962 1800 (car #127)Second Place – Roger Fritch, 1973 1800ES (car #124)Third Place – Michael Woodford, 1962 1800 (car #180)Class 10 – Modified V-SeriesFirst Place – Steven Parkhurst, 2006 V70R (car #174)Second Place – Shawn Flint, 1998 V70R (car #122)Third Place – John Sharp, 2000 V70R (car #164)Class 11 – Stock 544 - 122First Place – Pascual Castro, 1964 544 (car #110)Second Place – George McDonald, 1967 122S (car #187)Third Place – Alberto del Calvo, 1968 122S (car # 114)Class 12 – Stock 140 - 240First Place – Bill Webb, 1971 142GT (car #175)Second Place – Michael Peterson, 1970 144 (car #154)Class 13 – Stock 700 SeriesFirst Place – Wally & Marcia Russell, 1990 780 (car #161)Second Place – Vic Dres, 1988 740GLE (car #118)Class 14 – Stock 850 – 900 SeriesFirst Place – Lee Cordner, 1995 850 T5R (car #112)Second Place – Scott Smith, 1995 850 T5R (car #166)Class 15 – Stock Early 1800 (1962-1969)First Place – Ted Brough, 1967 1800 (car #109)Second Place – Dennis Winslow, 1968 1800 (car #177)Third Place – John Winslow, 1965 1800 (car #178)Class 16 – Stock Late 1800 (1970-1973)First Place – Peter Eulau, 1972 1800E (car #121)Second Place – Keith Schemm, 1970 1800E (car #162)Third Place – Carl Hockett & Sharon Reese, 1973 1800ES (car #131)Class 17 – Stock C, S SeriesFirst Place – James Pinger, 2004 S60R (car #156)Second Place – Clifford Fried, 2004 S60R (car #123)Third Place – Billy Tave, 1998 C70 Coupe (car #170)Class 18 – Stock V, X SeriesFirst Place – Bill & Betty Britton, 2005 V50 T5 (car #107)Second Place – Dave & brokeback Kent, 2006 V70XC Ocean Race (car #137)Third Place – Steve Yabroff, 2005 V70R (car #181)Class 19 – 1900First Place – David Hunt, 1956 1900 (car #133)Second Place – Lars Jansson, 1957 1900 (car #135)Special AwardsPeople’s Choice – Bill Webb, 1971 142GT (car # 175)Highest Mileage – Vic Dres, 1988 740GLE (car #118) (900,000+ miles claimed)Longest Distance Traveled – Vic Dres, 1988 740GLE (car #118) (drove from home in central Calif. to Lake Placid, NY for VCOA East Coast Meet, then directly drove to Lake Tahoe Meet (just under 10,000 miles!))Golden Rod – Tim Otters, 1980 242T (car #149) (one of the most extensively modified Volvos ever, if you see this car you will remember it)Road Warrior – Scott Prather, 1982 245DL (car #158) (drove to Meet from WA without incident, had spray boom at self-service car wash in Lake Tahoe fall on his car)Best of Show – Stock (pre-1975) – Bill Webb, 1971 142GT (car # 175)Best of Show – Stock (1975 & later) – Bill & Betty Britton, 2005 V50 T5 (car #107)Best of Show – Modified (pre-1975) – Fran Gawronski, 1962 1800 (car #127)Best of Show – Modified (1975 & later) – Ben Woodford, 1997 855 R (car #179)Concours Field CaptainJon ManjiAssistant Field CaptainsKarl GrimmBob VenableBill WebbScorekeeperBill WebbConcours JudgesKen BaxleyLes BaxleyTed BroughLee CordnerVic DresMike DudekPeter EulauRoger FritchDon GawronskiKarl GrimmDavid HuntBen HuntleyLarry JacksonConcours Judges (continued)Cameron LovreJon ManjiGeorge McDonaldJim McDonaldJerry PalfenierPat PriesterAmy ReeceAl SeligerScott SmithGlenn SunesonGeorge SwiftBob VenableSteve YabroffC.J. Yother, Jr.Alternate Concours Judges Fred GallaherPatrick GallaherBilly TaveTed WellsAutocross ResultsModified Class1st Place – George Haigh 29.63 850R2nd Place – John Pagel 29.89 740 Wagon3rd Place – CJ Yother 30.42 855RStock Class1st Place – Ben Huntley 31.90 8502nd Place – Carl Hockett 32.12 1800 ES3rd Place – Jon Vikander 32.36 X/C70 Additional Meet StaffRegistration: Joyce RobertsPhotographer: Julie LiestFriday Night Entertainment: Scott PeperParking: Wally RussellSaturday Night Speaker: Soren Johansson – Volvo Cars North AmericaCar Show: Jon ManjiAwards: Dave BartonAutocross: Mike DenmanGeneral Gofer: Lee CordnerMeet Sponsors:Volvo Cars North AmericaIPDRonal WheelsEurosports TuningVolvo of Orange CountyMothers Car Care ProductsStoner Car Care ProductsFlying A Travel Plaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prasamin Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I'm sure most of you VCOA people got this email from Lee. I thought I'd post it here cuz it's hilarious! We're on fire guys! Note the part in bold below lol. Lee, we love you man, but the banter will continue!Hi, I’m completely recovered! The national meet was really great. I’m sorry it wasn’t a bit warmer, but it could have been worse. South Tahoe got 6” of snow on Tuesday morning. We got away with it, but not by much! Next year, a warm place in the summer. I’m attaching a complete record of the results of the Car Show judging and the autocross. Photos of the meet are displayed on the following websites http://justjulz.photosite.com/2006VCOAWestCoastMeet Julie’s site – Meet photographerhttp://www.volvoguy.us Billy Tave’s site Also we’ll soon have some up on the chapter website www.goldengatevcoa.org and the national site www.vcoa.org use the galleries tab. There is also a forum on Volvospeed about the meet with photos… It contains some banter and interesting language, but if that doesn’t bother you, here you go… http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/Vcoa-Nation...eet-t61161.html and this one http://members13.clubphoto.com/ralph630329...383/guest.phtml For those of you who won or placed in the autocross, Dave Barton took some very nice action shots. Your plaque with photo will be mailed tomorrow. For those of you who placed in the Car Show, but did not pick up your plaque at the awards banquet, your award is in the mail tomorrow, too. Hope you had a good time at the meet! See you next year if not before. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenchunks Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Lol, banter and interesting language Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Lol, banter and interesting languageI prefer "colorful" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 this chubby dude with a yellow volvo showed up. we didn't really pay attention to it since it was completely stock.the outcasts went on a drive while the older crowd stayed back and played bingo or something of that nature.....oh wait, Come on Pras, be real. That chubby dude and a few of us stayed back to help a fellow member (Pat) out instead of abandoning him to go for a drive. Give him a little credit.Glad to see there's some cool pic's up here though, and that Pat finally made it home again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Über855R Posted October 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Come on Pras, be real. That chubby dude and a few of us stayed back to help a fellow member (Pat) out instead of abandoning him to go for a drive. Give him a little credit.Glad to see there's some cool pic's up here though, and that Pat finally made it home again.I think its cool that Doug and a couple others helped Pat out. But in all fairness everyone should have gone on the drive and let Pat ride shotgun. Its not like he made it home without problems anyway what would a couple of hours made a difference.Pat, what happened to the squeeze burger? I thought you were going to show up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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