Phil94850 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I have a friend thats selling a 96 850R i can pick up for about 1500.00 bucks. Its red in color, still has the factory wheels and such. The car has been sitting for about 2yrs. with a bad turbocharger other than that its suppose to run and drive. " if " thats all thats wrong is it worth the money and how hard is it to replace the turbo on one of these cars ? I had a 94 850 turbo and loved it and would really like to get my volvo back . Any opinions i would appreciate it. The guy said one day he was driving it and the CEL came on, he drove it to his mechanic and the turbo was shooting oil all over and he didnt have the money to fix it so it was parked. thats all i know about the car so far.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutbusterman Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I had 94 Turbo that did the same thing except it grenaded 1200 miles away. I ended up replacing the turbo with an eBay one that worked out fine, expect to pay around $300-$400 for a good used Volvo turbo. Seeing that it is an R, you should be careful to put an equivalent turbo on it. I think the 16t is what people are using for those. Be careful, there may be more damage to that engine than just the turbo. Engines don't run well with out oil. Expect to probably put at least $1500 into it to get everything else up to snuff, stage 0 tune, and the suspension redone. These R's are tough on the suspension. With all that said, if it's clean, I'd buy it only if you are going to do most of the work yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mune237 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 How many miles?What's the body/finish like?Interior?Could be an easy fix.Many folks here including myself have 15Gs(standard on 96) laying around.But you need to find out what EXACTLY is wrong.Could be just an oil lineNot too many red Rs around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil94850 Posted October 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 the guy emailed me back and heres a little more info, the mileage is approx 140k, he said its leaking oil into the cyls thru the turbo ( per his mechanic ) & maybe low compression... not leaking externally in the engine compartment or smoking out of the tailpipe. It did have a minor accident which was all repaired. Has the 17" wheels, the interior is not torn in any way. The car is about 2 hrs from me so its kinda hard to get up and take a look at it but i figure at the price if all it needs is a turbo then its worth the hassle. Hes gonna try and send some pics on his cell phone to me. I bought a car before without looking at it and got burned badly due to rust so i dont wanna make that mistake again. He said its been sitting in his driveway for about 2yrs now and hasnt started it soooo, only god knows. Hes owned the car for about 10 yrs now.If this was you guys, what would you look for and check out ? I know a little about volvos but not an expert. My 94 850 started smoking and i changed out the breather system and that fixed her and ive done the timing belt on it but im not great on the internals. I guess i need to get a battery and try and crank it and do a compression test at minimum ? I dont know if he'll do it without me buying it from him. If i buy and the engine is shot, what am i looking at then ? Id hate to part it out, but, to recover my money would that work ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 VII 7 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 sounds like the engine is complete shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconeman Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 I had 94 Turbo that did the same thing except it grenaded 1200 miles away. I ended up replacing the turbo with an eBay one that worked out fine, expect to pay around $300-$400 for a good used Volvo turbo. Seeing that it is an R, you should be careful to put an equivalent turbo on it. I think the 16t is what people are using for those. Be careful, there may be more damage to that engine than just the turbo. Engines don't run well with out oil. Expect to probably put at least $1500 into it to get everything else up to snuff, stage 0 tune, and the suspension redone. These R's are tough on the suspension. With all that said, if it's clean, I'd buy it only if you are going to do most of the work yourself.$1500 for suspension/turb/tune and stage 0? I don't think so sorry. It'll be more than that after sitting for 2 years. Can get very expensive. Parting it out can work if it winds up being garbage as lonng as the interior and bumpers (and other R parts) are in decent shape .I bought mine for $500 and have put about $6000 into it so far, still haven't gotten to the suspension. (engine, turbo and all stage zero items were around 3500. the performance adds were another 1500-2000 cosmetics were the rest of it)take a look at it and maybe offer him 750-1000 at the most. A car that's been sitting for 2 years is trouble in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 VII 7 Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 maybe this would be a great rebuild time for you?if the chassis is in good shape you might have a perfect candidate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil94850 Posted October 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 i was hopeing nothing major wrong with the car, i dont have a shop or anything to do a rebuild so that wouldnt work. R&R turbo or something i can handle though... im looking more into it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnderr Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Was this the one posted near Cincinnati? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milo Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 he said its leaking oil into the cyls thru the turbo ( per his mechanic )It sounds like you should be prepared to either rebuild the engine or replace it. (not saying that it is certain just that you should be prepared)IIRC the Rs had Nivomat rear shocks, check those, if they aren't in top shape they are expensive to replace.I would be shocked if this was not a project. You may get lucky, but for $1500 with a bad turbo and 140K, you need to be prepared for the fact that the only "new" part is that it's new to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutbusterman Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 $1500 for suspension/turb/tune and stage 0? I don't think so sorry. It'll be more than that after sitting for 2 years. Can get very expensive. Parting it out can work if it winds up being garbage as lonng as the interior and bumpers (and other R parts) are in decent shape .I bought mine for $500 and have put about $6000 into it so far, still haven't gotten to the suspension. (engine, turbo and all stage zero items were around 3500. the performance adds were another 1500-2000 cosmetics were the rest of it)take a look at it and maybe offer him 750-1000 at the most. A car that's been sitting for 2 years is trouble in my bookI missed the part about sitting for 2 years. But like I said, if he's not going to do almost all the work himself, I wouldn't buy it. Pass on it and look for something else. Remember that alot of people beat the crap out of these R's and then when they find out how much it is going to cost them to fix it, it usually ends up getting dumped or sitting until the wife complains enough about it. However, these cars aren't easy to find, in any shape. That's why I bought mine, rough as it is, I probably wouldn't find another like it for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil94850 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I finally got to talk to the guy on the phone and heres the skinny on the car... It was originally owned by a doctor and two years later ( 98 ) this guy bought it so its a two owner. The wife drove it and she had to have surgery so the husband drove up until two years ago. As i stated he was driving, CEL came on, took to his mechanic, Turbo is supposdly bad, parked it. I asked about the maint. on the car and he said all the major work ( timing belts, etc. ) has been kept up to date on the car. The guy is 65 yrs. old so i dont think he's been out racing it. Oddly enough, he used to work for Intel and he wanted the car cuz it had Intel chips in the ecu i guess ?? anyways, he double checked with his mechanic and before it got parked the tranny was pulled to replace the Rear main seal so thats been done. Soooo, basically he says all it needs is a new battery and turbo. I havent gotten up there to look at it yet Sitting for 2 yrs does worry me a little, i think i may go up and put a new battery in it and make sure itll turn over freely and maybe start. Will it hurt anything to run it with the turbo being bad ? He said it wasnt smoking or anything, which i dont understand if the turbo was bad. I read that theres a turbo drain could be leaking ?? Basically, on my budget i cant afford a R without having to put some wrenching into it which i dont mind as long as its not to serious.If the turbo is bad how hard of a job is it to replace ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
850 R power Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 phil, i have an 96 855R and let me make one thing clear: when your on a tight budget,don't even think about buying an R. sorry but that's the truth. if you want to keep these "monsters" in good shape it's gonna cost,that's when driving it daily. what i can't understand is the fact that this guy when it's only the turbo didn't fix it,since he wanted it so much. so in my opinion when he let's the car sit on his driveway for 2 years there must be something else wich is not quite right,if you get my drift.i had a simular problem with my turbo and it cost me a new turbo 900 euros and an engine rebuild 2500 euros. so be carefull how you tread my friend regards,walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
850 R power Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 one more thing:i don't know the prices of these car's(850/855R) in the states,but here and in holland for a good one prices vary from 7000 euros to 15000 euros. that's because these are rare and desired cars even after all this time. new they costed about 50.000 euros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil94850 Posted October 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 thank you for the advice walter, i understand its pricey to keep one up and i can do alot of the repairs myself, i was a mechanic for 20yrs. and owned a volvo 850 turbo before. I just never had to pull a motor, pull a head, etc. major stuff which im sure i could figure out. I asked the guy the same question why not get it fixed and he said he had a 960 that was sitting and he started driving it couldnt afford to fix the R at the time. This guy owns like 6 cars- corvette, vw karhman ghia, A8 Audi, 2 volvos, etc. Trust me im a little hesitant and before i hand over the funds im gonna give it a very good look over. I just wanted to get the experts thoughts on here. This is a great site.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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