Yellow95 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thanks. I don't have a torch to burn out the bushings. You think I could cut them out with a dremel?Anything is possible. Let me know if it works.Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynodyno312 Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Will do. I use my dremel for just about everything, so I figure some rubber bushings shouldn't be too tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
info2x Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Mapp gas torch is 38ish bucks at Lowes or HD... It's one of my favorite tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headline Posted October 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thanks guys. these are really good tips.The bushes and stronger endlinks sound very good actually. I'm totally sold to poly bushes since i put them on the control arms. cant figure out if i should get the red or the black ones. can someone clarify on the difference?on a 2001 s60 T5 i have both front and back sway bars?cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harleyhv Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thanks guys. these are really good tips.The bushes and stronger endlinks sound very good actually. I'm totally sold to poly bushes since i put them on the control arms. cant figure out if i should get the red or the black ones. can someone clarify on the difference?on a 2001 s60 T5 i have both front and back sway bars?cheers!Not sure about difference between red & black but yes, you do have both front & rear sway bars.Where did you get your poly bushing for the control arms? Changed mine recently but the roads up here are horrible thus more prone to have them replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdimag Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 vivaperfomance.com sells the control arm bushings...and damnit why did nobody mention those pro energy bushings while i had my subframe off :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEU Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 vivaperfomance.com sells the control arm bushings...and damnit why did nobody mention those pro energy bushings while i had my subframe off You could have asked me Brian... :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headline Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Thanks for the sway info. i'll try to find out the size of the bars - the owner manual is silent on this.i bought the bushes from powerflex and superflex (UK sites). excellent they are.cheers!Not sure about difference between red & black but yes, you do have both front & rear sway bars.Where did you get your poly bushing for the control arms? Changed mine recently but the roads up here are horrible thus more prone to have them replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Daddy Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 from auction listing:NOTE:This set is BLACK in color with the Graphite Impregnated self lubricating bushings. Red (non self lubricating) may be available by request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headline Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Guys, I did a bit of reading on the poly bushes for the bar. Below is a chat 2 guys had a few years ago on this forum. Dont think it was about a s60 (probably a 850) but got me thinking a bit given that there is no set made exactly for s60 bars, but universal bushes.What you think?• the stock baushing removal would require quite a bit of sawing and sanding to make it smooth. HOWEVER..unlike Ipd's front bars, there isnt a welded stop for the bushings. Not entirely sure of their purpose, but I assume that there may be some movement of the bar if those were not there, under exterme load. Does that make sense? Not sure if just putting new bushings would be up to the full potential if the bar is allowed to slip. The Stock bar didnt need them as the bushing was vulcanized onto the bar. but ipd's bushings are separate• I looked carefully at my front bar while I was replacing the control arm. All I saw was a crappy rubber bushing vulcanized right to the bar. No metal stops - are you sure you're not talking about the straps of metal that goes over the bushing and bolts on eitehr side of the sway bar - that's called the d-bracket. That would all get replaced.Also, not sure what you're talking about with the whole slipping bar and IPD's bushings being seperate.Every sway bar in the world just has a standard D-shaped bushing that goes around the bar (that's split so you can slip it over the bar), and a steel d-bracket to bolt it to the frame/steering rack/etc.• the "washers" keep the bar from moving sideways (left to right motion). when the "d clamps" are down, they hold the bushings DOWN in place... but the bushings are not 100% holding the bar itself in place. to the hand, it probably wont move much... but the car's weight shifts, I would believe to make the bar move sideways (if not much but a little give, which defeats the effects of a "anti - sway" bar (hope that decribes a good picture)now... on the other hand. the STOCK bar, has vulcanized rubber in "d clamps". since its volcanized, the bar will not move sideways while the bushings stay in place... the vulcanized bushings will allow the sway bar to actually do its work, since there is no "slip" of the bar and bushing contact. Upon the removal of the vulcanized bushing, there will be NO "washer" like things (as the ipd does) that will hold the NEW bushing in its place from any SIDEWAYS motion. The bushing will be held onto the frame with the "d clamps", and will have a good torque on the swaybar... but sideways motion will still be possible given the right amount of force.Anyways... My main point was IF you needed to add those "washer" things to help stop left/right movement, and IF you needed them, the stock bar doesnt have it, and something MAY need to be done to have the same effect that the IPD bar "washers" do on theirs.• Yup, if I did make a kit it would be complete, overengineered, and include everything you would need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomdude Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 very interesting, hopefully i can find a way to reuse those washers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow95 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 very interesting, hopefully i can find a way to reuse those washers.You wont need any washers.G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomdude Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 oh, ok. so those guys bickering about washers was pretty much useless, aye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headline Posted November 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Hi guysif i get stiffer bars, car is more stable , ride is better and so on. great. still it seems the downside is at low speed hard cornering where there is more understeer. you guys having the ipd bars agree with this? is there a clear trade-off?If things go right for me next spring i'll be able to throw a Quaife LSD on. hard cornering will benefit a lot from the LSD. question is where does it leave me for the best set up: [*]keep stock bar with new bar bushes and stronger endlinks or [*]go with new bars and hope the quaife will take care of the stiffer bar understeer at low speeds? i'd hate to go through the whole mess of burning and replacing bar bushes to realise i should have gotten the full bars.Gary, any thoughts? Anybody?as a side note, no aftermarket sway bars from volvo are made or sold in sweden! Could not believe it but it seems everybody imports them from the US. cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow95 Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 oh, ok. so those guys bickering about washers was pretty much useless, aye?850 bar is different from from the S60 bar. You will be fine.Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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