gdizzle Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 (edited) 10/14/2004 6:34:00 PM--------------------------------------------------------------------------------To: State Desk Contact: Chris Granberg of the Fraternal Order of Police, 202-547-8189WASHINGTON, Oct. 14 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Today Chuck Canterbury, the President of the nation's largest police labor organization, called on John Kerry to stop making misleading statements regarding his support from the law enforcement community. Both on the campaign trail and in Wednesday night's debate in Tempe, AZ, Senator Kerry has alluded that he has the support of the majority of these brave men and women."As the elected leader of the largest organization representing America's Federal, State and local law enforcement officers, I believe it's important to point out yet again that we do not support his candidacy for President," Canterbury said. "And to be perfectly frank, the groups which do support him actually share the same membership rolls and, taken together, probably comprise less than one-quarter of our nation's police officers."Canterbury further noted that unlike the organizations which Senator Kerry touts, F.O.P. members as a whole decided that the Fraternal Order of Police would endorse the reelection of President George W. Bush. They based their decision, he said, on the record of the Bush Administration in supporting America's first responders-including helping to secure passage earlier this year of H.R. 218, the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act, the organization's top legislative priority. Bush also successfully fought to greatly enhance the benefits for the families of officers killed in the line of duty."While Kerry was flying around the country campaigning and leaving the actual work of the nation to his colleagues in the Senate, the President was out there working on our behalf," Canterbury said. "Senators Kerry and Edwa ve there were only 98 members of the U.S. Senate."Canterbury also said it was the height of irony that Kerry would use his position on the reauthorization of the assault weapons ban as a reflection of his support from police."First, if a police officer is killed by an AK-47, Kerry would oppose the death penalty for the killer," Canterbury said. "In addition, where was he when this issue was being discussed in the 108th Congress? Where was he when we were working to pass H.R. 218? When it came time to help push for final passage of legislation important to law enforcement, Senator Kerry was regrettably A.W.O.L.""Given the facts, I would greatly appreciate it if Senator Kerry would refrain from making similar whimsical assertions regarding his support from the law enforcement community," Canterbury said. "The real majority of my fellow officers are standing behind President Bush, because he has been there for us."The Fraternal Order of Police is the nation's largest law enforcement labor organization, with more than 318,000 members.http://www.usnewswire.com/-0-/© 2004 U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ Edited October 17, 2004 by gdogg16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay13 Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Wish I could say I was surprised that Kerry would do that but.................... I'm not. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1182 Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 its good to see someone actually using facts(or news articles at least) in the politics section. i appreciate it.ive never heard of the FOP, but i did a little research on the president(googled him ) and found some entertaing stuff. hes actually got his own section on georgewbush.com called "keeping order" where he answers questions for all the non partisan visitors to his site looking for some direction:0. very sweet of him. anyhoo, i didnt see any powerful arguements in that that couldnt be made about bush as well, however, i did find this for you. enjoy http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselect...ice-union_x.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted October 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 (edited) its good to see someone actually using facts(or news articles at least) in the politics section. i appreciate it.ive never heard of the FOP, but i did a little research on the president(googled him ) and found some entertaing stuff. hes actually got his own section on georgewbush.com called "keeping order" where he answers questions for all the non partisan visitors to his site looking for some direction:0. very sweet of him. anyhoo, i didnt see any powerful arguements in that that couldnt be made about bush as well, however, i did find this for you. enjoy http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselect...ice-union_x.htm←Thats the IBPO, not nearly as large, nor as important as the FOP. Edited October 18, 2004 by gdogg16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 the point was that he dosent speak for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 the point was that he dosent speak for everyone←But he speaks for more people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Kerry just says what he thinks people want to hear.. He panders to whatever audience he has at the time. It's actually funny... He reminds me of Carson Daly... remember when Carson would have like Eminem on TRL and Carson would act all tough and gangsta, and then like a week later he'd have Godsmack on and be flashin the hook 'em horns sign and acting all metalhead. Bottom line is they're both tools and I shouldn't have to put up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1182 Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 all presidential candidates do that capp'n. its called being a politician. your boy george is no exception, and you are fooling yourself to think otherwise. candidates must appeal to the masses, its how they get votes. right or wrong they all do it. perhaps you would know this if you spent less time watching mtv, and more time on cnn (or fox if that floats your conservative boat) you would understand some fo these vaguely important things. P.S. you just admitted you watch mtv...hahahahahahahahahaha. i mean seriously though comon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 all presidential candidates do that capp'n. its called being a politician. your boy george is no exception, and you are fooling yourself to think otherwise. candidates must appeal to the masses, its how they get votes. right or wrong they all do it. perhaps you would know this if you spent less time watching mtv, and more time on cnn (or fox if that floats your conservative boat) you would understand some fo these vaguely important things. P.S. you just admitted you watch mtv...hahahahahahahahahaha. i mean seriously though comon.← you're 17.. you can't even vote... I mean seriously though comon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1182 Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 yet i understand the system better than you. tis irony for sure, but thats they way the stuff falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 (edited) yet i understand the system better than you. tis irony for sure, but thats they way the stuff falls.←Oh you do now do you? Please, in your infinite wisdom of 17, enlighten me. Edited October 20, 2004 by '98S70R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1182 Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 infinite? hardly. adequate? apparently. Kerry just says what he thinks people want to hear.. He panders to whatever audience he has at the time. It's actually funny... He reminds me of Carson Daly... remember when Carson would have like Eminem on TRL and Carson would act all tough and gangsta, and then like a week later he'd have Godsmack on and be flashin the hook 'em horns sign and acting all metalhead. Bottom line is they're both tools and I shouldn't have to put up with it.←all presidential candidates do that capp'n. its called being a politician. your boy george is no exception, and you are fooling yourself to think otherwise. candidates must appeal to the masses, its how they get votes. right or wrong they all do it. perhaps you would know this if you spent less time watching mtv, and more time on cnn (or fox if that floats your conservative boat) you would understand some fo these vaguely important things. P.S. you just admitted you watch mtv...hahahahahahahahahaha. i mean seriously though comon.← Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 infinite? hardly. adequate? apparently. ←Yes, I can see where you're going with this, but there is no way in hell that W would go up on stage and say "I've got the support of GLAAD," whereas Kerry just did the same thing by saying that he's got the support of the Police around the country. Kerry's reaching for straws.. Appealing to the masses is one thing, granted, something that politicans have to do, but making up facts about various large groups being on your side is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester1182 Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 yeah well thats another thing politicians do. make up facts. read over a script of the debates youll be amazed how many "facts" you see from either side. (my personal favorite is cheneys proclamation that he has never met edwards before). then again those things are live and under pressure can see how one might throw out a number and stick with it for no logical reason. of course, i get the vague impression that there was some sort of WMD dispute a while back. what was that all about anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 yeah well thats another thing politicians do. make up facts. read over a script of the debates youll be amazed how many "facts" you see from either side. (my personal favorite is cheneys proclamation that he has never met edwards before). then again those things are live and under pressure can see how one might throw out a number and stick with it for no logical reason. of course, i get the vague impression that there was some sort of WMD dispute a while back. what was that all about anyway?← I agree.. it's live.. so much pressure.... I know I couldn't do it... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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