850 Exhaust

[Kit Vexed]

alright, alright... i apologize if this is a topic you guys are sick of (probably). im on the fence about a turbo and some other mods and realized that i still have a stock exhaust. maybe i should look for power there before i go worrying about a turbo or a tune. SO, that being said, what do you guys think about cat back systems? what is the best way to go? iPd/Ferrita? EST's? custom? I ask because both iPd/Ferrita and EST are $625 and 2.5". On the other hand, i could get something custom done and have it be 3" (and probably cheaper than $625). the only thing i worry about going custom is that the iPd and EST are obviously tested, proven, and made for the 850 (on a jig im assuming), while custom could easily be just something bent to fit with little worry towards perfect bends and fitment. im assuming most muffler shops want your ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD in and out ASAP; especially on a custom project that could prove to be time consuming, and since 'time is money' they may go half assed, AND, who knows about the quality of the Stainless they'd have? so you see there are pros/cons, like with anything else.. who has a Ferrita? who bought the EST set up? is there a TRUE benefit to going 3" instead of 2.5"? what are you guys happy with, or what have you heard? any regrets? thanks ya'll :rolleyes:

[--Aaron--]

I agree, IMO it should be full silicone, turbo (if you're upgrading), full exhaust and then tune, at least that's how I went about my deal.

I'm running IPD's discontinued TME catback and in terms of fitment it slaps right on and without even looking the IPD logo on the tip ends up perfectly centered and looking up. IMO It delivers a nice, sleeper like sound, only loud when you make it. It sounds even meaner without the resonator but that's not for everyone.

I was considering a full 3 in. as well but decided to drop to 2.5 in the rear, from a few people I talk to gains from having a full 3 in. system would be barely noticeable, if at all.

So, sure custom will work and be a fraction of the price, will you be back to the shop to have welds patched or pipes realigned due to clanging, probably but all in all it would cost much less, just bring on more headache.

Altering a stock setup though you're asking for problems....I was back at the exhaust shop a handful of times before everything finally got welded up nice and tight and away from that pain in the ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD delta link.

[nolanator]

i have a custom 2 1/2" catback with no muffler. the shop did an excellent job fitting the proper pipes and in the end, i couldn't be happier. btw it only cost $210 out the door.

[Kit Vexed]

yeah, i heard nothing but good things about the TME... why did iPd switch? maybe the wholesale prices for the Ferrita were cheaper and iPd could still get the same amount from customers? i always thought it to be weird that the ideal set up was a 3" dp, then go smaller from cat back? $210 is unbeatable for sure, but did you get stainless? aluminum? i DEF need a muffler - i'd take the classic volvo 'whirrrr' over a mufflerless constant droning any day.. plus, i would like to pass emissions AND not attract any unnecessary attention. the one thing i HAVE heard about the iPd and EST cat backs is that they basically last forever, whilst im unsure of the custom's longevity. anyways, keep the feedback comin' please. i appreciate you guys

[--Aaron--]

I'm not positive as to the materials used in the IPD/TME catback but I can tell you I bought the setup used and despite the leaky resonator inlet/outlet (which didn't expose til on the car) it still has an awesome clean sound.....that is why I had the resonator replaced with straight pipe. I'm not sure how many miles were on it when I bought it. I wet sanded and polished the tip and that turned out good as new.

[nolanator]

yeah, i heard nothing but good things about the TME... why did iPd switch? maybe the wholesale prices for the Ferrita were cheaper and iPd could still get the same amount from customers? i always thought it to be weird that the ideal set up was a 3" dp, then go smaller from cat back? $210 is unbeatable for sure, but did you get stainless? aluminum? i DEF need a muffler - i'd take the classic volvo 'whirrrr' over a mufflerless constant droning any day.. plus, i would like to pass emissions AND not attract any unnecessary attention. the one thing i HAVE heard about the iPd and EST cat backs is that they basically last forever, whilst im unsure of the custom's longevity. anyways, keep the feedback comin' please. i appreciate you guys

strangely this is much quieter than my M3 with a muffler

i went with SS.

[Kit Vexed]

well, seeing as TME is swedish, im sure it was made from top quality materials... hell, think about it - who buys a used exhaust? what exhaust could last beyond one car, right? unfortunately, i cant get TME so it's not an option any more :(

[--Aaron--]

well, seeing as TME is swedish, im sure it was made from top quality materials... hell, think about it - who buys a used exhaust? what exhaust could last beyond one car, right? unfortunately, i cant get TME so it's not an option any more

Good luck with your project though man, sometimes a TME muffler or catback pops up for sale....if it does def. consider grabbing it.

[Kit Vexed]

Ahhh, so i went to the TME website... it said they no longer have an importer to the USA. guess this could be why iPd no longer sells TME? somebody is probably reading this and thinking, "duh... it's been discussed" lol. so i guess a true TME exhaust is like a collectors item! hell, if i find one i'll hang it over the mantle before i put it through the beating of being on a car - its quite the rare piece

[--Aaron--]

Ahhh, so i went to the TME website... it said they no longer have an importer to the USA. guess this could be why iPd no longer sells TME? somebody is probably reading this and thinking, "duh... it's been discussed" lol. so i guess a true TME exhaust is like a collectors item! hell, if i find one i'll hang it over the mantle before i put it through the beating of being on a car - its quite the rare piece

Well said, but seriously if you find one, it deserves to make the owner happy and be on the car.

I've heard very very good things about the Ferrita exhaust as well.

[mune237]

No question, Go custom, in either 2.5 or 3"

Buy the necessary parts online,

It'll be alot cheaper, even with SS.

I was able to source most parts at Summit.

then take it to an indy muffler shop.

Actually Jon Sayre did my turbo back, in his buddy's carport.

And he got it right the first time.

So a reputable shop should have any easier time.

Depending on where you live,

VSers should be able to recommend a good shop for you.

[Big Will]

Both TME and Ferrita are Swedish. Both are SS. Since IPD no longer carries TME stuff they don't have a US distributor. You can still buy their stuff directly from TME - shipping will probably be expensive though to the US but it might not be too bad on an exhaust depending on how many pieces it is - I can't remember from mine but I love my TME dual exhaust aside from a bit of surface rusting at the welding points.

The EST/Ferrita exhausts are a bit quieter at least for the AWD exhaust than the TME one.

[CO.T5M]

if your getting a bigger turbo check to make sure the hot side of the exhaust is the same of different.

and i would just get the OBX system.

i have been running mine for about 6 months and 10,000 and have had nothing but great things to say about it.

its 3 inch to a 2.5 cat back, i had the connection welded shut so i did not mess with the v band clamps. i only have one in the whole system after the cat for easy removal when needed.

the only thing i did was cut the tip off and add a est tip for a better rear look.

and did a full turbo back for 500 out the door.

[Jack8745]

if your getting a bigger turbo check to make sure the hot side of the exhaust is the same of different.

and i would just get the OBX system.

i have been running mine for about 6 months and 10,000 and have had nothing but great things to say about it.

its 3 inch to a 2.5 cat back, i had the connection welded shut so i did not mess with the v band clamps. i only have one in the whole system after the cat for easy removal when needed.

the only thing i did was cut the tip off and add a est tip for a better rear look.

and did a full turbo back for 500 out the door.

which cat did you go with ?

[sconeman]

Exhaust first, but keep in mind what you want to put in later for a turbo. In Aaron's situation he was changing from a LPT to a HPT so clearly the stock turbo was a huge restriction in his situation. If you have an HPT then go exhaust first for sure. OBX is the cheapest way to go turbo back with quality...but you might want a cat and you might want another muffler so keep that in mind..it can add up. $625 for turbo back custom is a great price as long as it's good quality SS and mandrel bent. Any competent shop can fab that for you. If they say they can't, go somewhere else, not worth risking getting garbage.

TME is nice but it's not necessary.

Mine is a strange mix. 3" dP that goes all the way back to the first muffler with a 3" magnaflow cat, then it reduces down to 2.5" to go through 1 tme muffler in stock location and 1 magnaflow under the rear bumper. Sounds great under WOT the second muffler really muffles the nice raspy grumble that you can get with a 1 muffler or no muffler system but it doesn't annoy my wife and doesn't wake up the kid either. I like it...personally I would probably like it without the second muffler better but the drone on these engines can be untolerable at highway speeds so I'm not complaining. Here's a LINKY to a vid with the setup I just mentioned. Here's a LINK to a 3" DP and a full TME catback (a little louder and raspier)

A 3" turbo back with 2 mufflers will sound mean without drone. That's what I would do next time. People say that a fully wrapped exhaust is droneless but I would never do that in the Northeast.