Kit Vexed Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 i have a 95 T-5R. a week ago the pass rear caliper froze up on me (darn NE weather!). its been too cold to work on the car until yesterday. i replaced the caliper, and line, as the old line seemed to be frozen to the old caliper (just couldnt get that darn line out of it). so i was all excited to have my car back and stop bumming rides for the past week, and the darn thing wouldnt start. the car ran fine when i parked it, and its actually NEVER not started for me since i've owned it. it tries to turn over but just wont.. maybe im not getting fuel? maybe i kinked a line when i replaced the brake line and then lowered the car? i decided to check the diagnostic A2 probe and its giving me code 3-3-5. i looked it up in Bay 13 and its " request for MIL on TCM " ? or something like that... its obvious these are acronyms for something, but what? what does this code mean? please tell me its a cheap fix! lol. i cleared the codes twice and its still not starting... please help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazarvospeed Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 check for pressure at the fuel rail , you'll see a air valve looking thing near the throttle area. check for constant pressure. if no pressure at the rail ..... then you may want to check if the fuel pump is working or not. if no pump niose then you may need to either replace the fuel pump relay ( I have a few if you need this ) or you may need to buy those pricey fuel pumps. I found mine at the yard ( happened to be pretty new ). let us know what you come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 54 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 i decided to check the diagnostic A2 probe and its giving me code 3-3-5. i looked it up in Bay 13 and its " request for MIL on TCM " ? or something like that... its obvious these are acronyms for something, but what? what does this code mean? Refered to Haynes manual, Volvo 850 92-96 (J to P Registration),Fuel System, code 3-3-5 is reading in both the Fenix 5.2 system and the Motronic 4.3 system as, Request for malfunction indicator lamp from automatic transmission ECU. Hope this helps, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Vexed Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 so what does that mean? like putting the car in reverse and not having the back up lights light up? malfunction of indicator lamp (thats the 'MIL')? what i dont understand is, if lighting is the problem, why wouldn't the car start? i DID clear the A2 codes... would clearing the tranny codes possibly work? didnt try that yet.. man, i hate electrical stuff! lol. please keep posting if you guys know more, or have had this happen to you. i'll let ya'll know if i get it fixed, and what i did so you'll know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 54 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Not coming up with anything for the TCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 54 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Check both the ECU'S again,TCM trans control module? The one for the trns may give more detail as to what the other one is reading. Differnt codes may pop up on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C70 T5M Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Ummmmm battery have someone jumpstart it to fix all your problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Vexed Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 umm, nope, NOT the battery... got an optima yellow top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbsl98 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Is it likely that the last time you ran the engine, you started it, ran it only for a couple of minutes until you found it wouldn't move, and then shut it off? If so, good chance it is just "lawnmower syndrome" which is when one or more of the valves gets stuck open due to uneven warming of the internal parts. Lots of threads on it here. In most cases, just keep cranking it for several minutes with a fresh battery or a supplemental battery on jumpers (to maintain good voltage) and it will eventually catch on one or two cylinders, then work its way back to normal with some stuttering, smoking, etc. as it clears teh excess fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinL Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 so what does that mean? like putting the car in reverse and not having the back up lights light up? malfunction of indicator lamp (thats the 'MIL')? what i dont understand is, if lighting is the problem, why wouldn't the car start? i DID clear the A2 codes... would clearing the tranny codes possibly work? didnt try that yet.. man, i hate electrical stuff! lol. please keep posting if you guys know more, or have had this happen to you. i'll let ya'll know if i get it fixed, and what i did so you'll knowThus is what it means. It shouldn't prevent the car from starting.DTC information 3–3–5ConditionThe TCM can request activation of the MIL lamp via a signal lead to the SFI control module. If the ECM registers a fault with the signal lead, DTC 3–3–5 is set. When the ignition is switched on, the ECM checks if the signal lead is short circuited to voltage supply (high signal). When the engine starts, the ECM checks if the signal lead is short circuited to ground (low signal).Substitute value None.Possible sourceSignal too high:-Signal lead short circuited to voltage supply.Signal too low:-Signal lead short circuited to ground.Fault symptom None.Do you hear the fuel pump prime for a few seconds when you turn the ignition on before starting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Vexed Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 yes, i hear the fuel pump... mbsl98's 'lawn mower' syndrome actually sounds feasible. reason being is when i FIRST tried to start the car (after a week of sitting) it sounded like it always does when i just start the car regularly, BUT i let off the key just before it may have started... THEN, i tried again and let off the key JUST before it was going to start (neither time being intentional, just figured it'd start). AFTER those two tries is when it started to sound a bit different in trying to start itself, almost like the starter didnt have the cranking power like the first two tries, however it would 'thump' every now and then as if it were trying, and i gave it a little gas, but no change. you guys, thank you SO much for all your responses... even though the car isn't starting yet, i just appreciate ALL your feedback. thank you. im going to check the tranny codes or maybe move the car backwards a little bit just to see if the flywheel moves (since i guess its a trans code problem) if that will solve anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Vexed Posted February 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 okay, so, update: moved the car back a few feet and NOTHING. i even charged the battery cause it was getting low from all the start attempts and NOTHING. i checked the computer for codes and it was all 1's for both A1 and A2... im not sure now if the fuel pump is kicking in when i turn the key cause the car has a gosh darn electric antenna that goes up when i turn the key so that's all i can hear... i am convinced, however, that it IS a fuel problem cause it just sounds like its starving for fuel... if it were the pump or the relay, wouldn't the computer spit the code telling me so? im not getting the 3-3-5 code any longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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