GeraldJ Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 whats that good for, 315 whp ?Whats it good for or what does it currently have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWinkey Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Cars have been running E10 every winter since the 70s, nothing new here.Yes but the mixture is fatter in the winter as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnloves850's Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 i'm pretty sure you'll kill your fuel system as wellalcohol will rust out your fuel linesand that is also something i do not want to deal withthey don't even have e85 around my area yet for whatever reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEXC Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 In the marine industry I have seen it break down fuel lines which then clog up the injectors. We have also had problems with water forming in fuel tanks. I have a 1982 K5 Blazer and the first couple of tank fulls of 10% ethanol loosened up any debris that was in my fuel lines and fuel tank then clogged the the fuel filter. Carb was removed twice in order to clean jets. http://www.boattest.com/Resources/view_news.aspx?NewsID=3345There are 18 million boats currently in operation in the U.S., and none of them have been designed, certified or warrantied to run on anything above E10. Ethanol is a solvent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 So is petrol..... so is water.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEXC Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 So is petrol..... so is water....I never heard of water or fuel doing this.Ethanol is a strong solvent. It can dissolve some types of rubber and plastic, and it can even dissolve the resin in fiberglass fuel tanks built before the early ‘80s. If you own a boat with a fiberglass fuel tank built around 1983, we advise you to call the manufacturer and ask if it is safe to use E-10 in the tank. If the builder is out of business or you can’t get an answer, then proceed carefully. Be alert to smoking, new engine noise, and loss of performance, all of which may indicate that you have a problem of resin dissolving in your fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWinkey Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 What are carb jets???? Are they like points??? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Ethanol is a strong solvent.Yeah but water is the universal solvent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEXC Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 What are carb jets???? Are they like points??? OWNED lol I meant needle and seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanky Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 <!--quoteo(post=1578525:date=May 15 2009, 10:31 PM:name=RZT5)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RZT5 @ May 15 2009, 10:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1578525"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->and how are rings intended for use with ethanol different from normal rings?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> They aren't. 50/50 and you got it wrong!! Go rent slumdog millionaire... <!--quoteo(post=1579128:date=May 16 2009, 09:31 PM:name=Che'_Moderator)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Che'_Moderator @ May 16 2009, 09:31 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1579128"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So is petrol..... so is water....<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I never heard of water or fuel doing this. <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ethanol is a<b> <i>strong</i></b> solvent. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> It would depend on what the solute is I am sure some of the cheaper gasoline additives could react with a Ethanol rich blend to reduce it to H20 and Ethane. I could not see this happening with just Gasoline and Ethanol or even some of the petroleum distillates used to clean out injectors and such... Ethanol is very hydrophilic...probably why you would not want to use it in marine use <!--quoteo(post=1579571:date=May 17 2009, 03:20 PM:name=JESSEXC)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JESSEXC @ May 17 2009, 03:20 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1579571"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ethanol is a<b> <i>strong</i></b> solvent.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah but water is the universal solvent. Polar Solvent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8 APEKS Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Well, I know probably 8 to 10 people running E85 on gas engines with no troubles, and they didn't require new rings. Matter of fact, there's a few Turbobrickers on E85. So maybe there are some magical E85 piston rings available from the dealership, but from what I've seen, it hasn't made any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bum2kev Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 dont we have to replace our fuel lines? or are there people running e85 on an 850 without any major problems.....i was thinking about having an e85 tune on turbo tuner. but i would want to replace everything that needs it. fuel lines etc. there is an e85 station 20 mins from me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanky Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 dont we have to replace our fuel lines? or are there people running e85 on an 850 without any major problems.....i was thinking about having an e85 tune on turbo tuner. but i would want to replace everything that needs it. fuel lines etc. there is an e85 station 20 mins from me. Yes I was actually being a smart ass with orange county. I am not aware of problems with the pistons rings...ask Chuck. I know that with many of the rubber parts (O-rings, hoses ect) you want to make sure that they wont deteriorate over time when subjected to Ethanol (basically do some homework). I was thinking of the same thing in regards to switching over. You might want to contact BSR in Sweden, I know they are offering E85 tunes and they might lead you in the right direction in regards to what parts you want to change. Screw the E85 station!! Get a old hot water heater, a cheap source of grain and let the moonshine rip!! Also pick up a few books on "Home Brewing" in case the ATF gets called ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Well, I know probably 8 to 10 people running E85 on gas engines with no troubles, and they didn't require new rings. Matter of fact, there's a few Turbobrickers on E85. So maybe there are some magical E85 piston rings available from the dealership, but from what I've seen, it hasn't made any difference. Keep digging. And I have seen several people rattle can their car. That does not mean its a good idea :arob: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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