War Is Peace, Freedom Is Slavery, Ignorance Is Strength

[Chilled man]

Wherever you stand, please take the time to read this; it ought to scare the

bee jeebers out of you!

We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado . In that context his

thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration

overpopulation conference in Washington , DC , filled to capacity by many of

America 's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the

name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, 'Mexifornia,'

explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the

entire state of California . He said it would march across the country until

it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a

stunning speech on how to destroy America

The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the

destruction of the United States . He said, 'If you believe that America is

too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America . It is

not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time.

Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that

'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.''

'Here is how they do it,' Lamm said:

'First, to destroy America , turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual

and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the

tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and

cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is

a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour

Lipset, put itis way: 'The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies

that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.'

Canada , Belgium , Malaysia , and Lebanon all face crises of national e

xistence in which minorities press for autonomy , if not independence.

Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion.

France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, Corsicans and Muslims.'

Lamm went on:

'Second, to destroy America , invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage

immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all

cultures are equal; that there are no cultural differences. Make it an

article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to

prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out

of bounds.

'Third, we could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec ' without much

effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin

Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our

own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not

by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated

ethnocentriy and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only

tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.' Lamm said, 'I would encourage

all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the

melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to en

sure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing

their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.'

'Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least

educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and

antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a

50% dropout rate from high school.'

'My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and

business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic

identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all

minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the

majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on

the majority plation.'

'My sixth plan for America 's downfall would include dual citizenship, and

promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would

stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are

mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing

each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most

historical precet. People undervalue the unit y it takes to keep a nation

together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged

to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they

worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games.. A

common enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were

not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical

conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. 'E. Pluribus

Unum' -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis

on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will 'Balkanize' America as

surely as Kosovo.'

'Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits. Make it taboo to talk

about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar

to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed

thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate.

Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established

multi-cultum, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of

'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration

laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for

America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant

symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.'

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound

silence followed. Finally he said, 'Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson

Davis's book 'Mexifornia.' His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to

destroy America . If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read

that book.'

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud

above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew

that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly,

darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being

suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational

system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice

female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American

jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World

in America Take note of California and other states. To date, ten million

illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book

'1984.' In that story, three slogans are engrd in the Ministry of Truth

building: 'War is peace,' 'Freedom is slavery,' and 'Ignorance is strength.'

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the

conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply

in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster

stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and

destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

If you care for and love our country as I do, take the time to pass this on

just as I did for you.

NOTHING is going to happen if you don't!

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I'll read the book...

[DonutsDemise]

What's your point?

Great book and the content of this thread is a huge let down after reading the title of it. I should have looked who started it before I got excited That quote applies more to the Bush Administration or the Soviet Union btw.

[v4lve]

INGSOC 4 LYFE

[DonutsDemise]

INGSOC 4 LYFE

is that 1337 N3W5P34K?

[ErikS]

I'll read the book...

Respecting someone's right to voice an opinon is the pinnacle of humanity. Evaluating how opinions become belief is an exercise in understanding. Understanding respect for all humanity asks humanity how to evaluate respect.

If you are to understand where the world is headed, you have to stop being xenophobic.

[Chilled man]

Tell that to every prior Civilization that has fallen ...................

Does anyone read a history book here or did you all fall asleep during that class ?

[ErikS]

Tell that to every prior Civilization that has fallen ...................

Does anyone read a history book here or did you all fall asleep during that class ?

Do you really want to go there?

[Chilled man]

Do you really want to go there?

Copy paste

The Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians, Danes, and some Franks and Burgundians, were all immigrants to Celtic Britain. It took about 400 years from the first influx for these immigrants to coalesce into ever larger groups and then just one, the English, but in this process they eventually expelled or absorbed the native Celts, eventually forbidding then to use their own language and laws, and calling them foreigners (Welshmen) in their own land.

Probably the main reason that the "English" were successful was the inability of the various post Roman Celtic kingdoms to unite in the common cause, some of them even allying themselves with the immigrants against their own people. In fact, for all that the Celts have given to modern "Western" countries, this lack of unity was probably their greatest failing. This was he main reason that the Romans were able to get over the Alps and occupy Gaul, and also was a factor in the success of the various Germanic tribes in occupying post Roman Gaul and making it into France.

The North American native peoples had the same failing, which is why Europeans (immigrants) were so easily able to dispossess them of their lands, language and culture. I have often wondered what would have happened if the Iroquois Confederacy had been able to consolidate all of the tribes in what is now the Eastern US and parts of Canada prior to the arrival of the Europeans. Remember the old saying: "united we stand, divided we fall." The Celts and the North American natives were divided, and they fell. It remains to be seen if modern Western countries will stand or fall.

Do you want more ?

[Che'_Moderator]

Tell that to every prior Civilization that has fallen ...................

Does anyone read a history book here or did you all fall asleep during that class ?

You're a Jehovah. GTFO!

[Chilled man]

You're a Jehovah. GTFO!

LOL not for a long time ;)

[Che'_Moderator]

LOL not for a long time

So now you are lobbying for social and ethnic unity in America? So....... you are a hippie? Its that or you want to kick them out and you are Klan.

[Chilled man]

So now you are lobbying for social and ethnic unity in America? So....... you are a hippie? Its that or you want to kick them out and you are Klan.

I would go unity first and if they wont , well the klan is always there ..... :o

[ErikS]

Copy paste

Do you want more ?

I seriously doubt you even understand what you copied and pasted. European conquest of the America's was driven by ethnocentrism, scarcity of resources, and social stratification.

What are you trying to say? We should stick to a perceived seperation of society based on the amount of melatonin in our skin and our reaction to sunlight because you quoted a 5 year old email?

[Chilled man]

I seriously doubt you even understand what you copied and pasted. European conquest of the America's was driven by ethnocentrism, scarity of resources, and social stratification.

What are you trying to say? We should stick to a perceivied seperation of society based on the amount of melatonin in our skin and our reaction to sunlight because you quoted a 5 year old email?

How can you not understand that if we continoue on the path of diversity and continoue to show how everyones differences are soooo special that they should keep on pushing those differences this country will fail.

I though the US was the melting pot, not the hey were different and screw you and give us everything for free country ?

What I am simpley saying that when you move to the US you should understand that you will have to make changes to live here and be productive memeber of society and keeping your personal view of how your old country was run and why its being run into the ground needs to change.

With out this change , this country will be no better off then the rest of the 2nd world and 3rd world nations these people are comming from.

more copypaste.

First off, English ought to be made an official language. That would help schools give a better quality of education and simplify a mountain of public works matters. I wouldn't discourage other languages, but we need one of our own.

Making LEGAL immigration more affordable would be a good thing, too. Learning American History, the English language, and some basic law would be good. Part of the program could help immigrants locate to areas that have jobs, and could handle some additional population. (NOT: NYC, LA, Philly, Miami, etc.........)

Making ILLEGAL immigration more difficult is probably an unfortunate necessity. But, a nation of laws must enforce them to its own benefit. Thus far, America has permitted California to bleed to death and has had a lot of polite discussion watching her slowly slip away. Epic Fail.

There's probably a ton of other stuff that COULD be done, but I think the solutions are much smaller than the symptoms the nation is experiencing. Small changes that we CAN do and enforce will be what really turns this around.

[DonutsDemise]

it's amazing how easy it is to read your posts when you copy and paste from what other people have typed