lookforjoe Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 great . Those delete hubs you got.Did you get them on VS, or neighborhood lathe work ? And what you going to do with ignition? Cap and cam sensor custom mounting on s60 head? Hubs came from Aaron (see VVT Delete Hub Thread) Ign will be COP I drilled the cam anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvo5.0 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Is COP for TT in production or are you doing some kind of "beta" testing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maciekb2002 Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hubs came from Aaron (see VVT Delete Hub Thread) Ign will be COP I drilled the cam anyway. Where the hell this setup came from? More specs, NOW !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicaljake Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 woh.. wtf.. i (think) i want that haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookforjoe Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Is COP for TT in production or are you doing some kind of "beta" testing??? Where the hell this setup came from? More specs, NOW !!!!! TurboTunerUSB COP setup. They are finishing up the final wiring now (he had issues sourcing the proper connectors, amongst other things) the ECU connector will be right angle in production version. They sent me a link to a car running the beta - but now I can't find it Mine is not exactly beta Hopefully I'll have it in my sweaty palms in the next month - it's been worked on for quite some time, trying to get the production costs down, I think was the big issue. Contact info@turbo-tuner.co.uk for more info.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 What an ugly solution.. :blink: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookforjoe Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 What an ugly solution.. What aspect? The overall component design, or the COP wiring harness? I've made my own COP wiring, so unlike the example, it will be one piece back to the relay box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconeman Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) Where the hell this setup came from? More specs, NOW !!!!! dammit CJ said it wasn't ready and with unknown timeline when I ordered. I want COP instead/ dammit CJ said it wasn't ready and with unknown timeline when I ordered. I want COP instead/ oh yeah an nice F in work on the manifold setup looks $$ that is going to be a world of difference! Edited February 9, 2011 by sconeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 What aspect? The overall component design, or the COP wiring harness? I've made my own COP wiring, so unlike the example, it will be one piece back to the relay box. 7 transitions, 9 if you count what appear to be two soldering points... Do the ground wires of the coils needs to run al the way back? Can't it be grounded to the engine like the stock wiring? Same goes for the feed wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCviggen Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I don't really see a big advantage in a COP setup...unless you are struggling with misfires they are not going to add much power of their own. They are a neater solution if installed from the factory..retrofitting like this kind of removes that main advantage. The 850s had a very decent distributor based ignition system, supports over 500hp if you want it to. So it seems a lot of hard work for the novelty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookforjoe Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 dammit CJ said it wasn't ready and with unknown timeline when I ordered. I want COP instead/ oh yeah an nice F in work on the manifold setup looks $$ that is going to be a world of difference! Thanks! Production version isn't ready, and I know there aren't any prepped ECU's over here, so it certainly could be some time before the full kit & revised ECU is readily available.. 7 transitions, 9 if you count what appear to be two soldering points... Do the ground wires of the coils needs to run al the way back? Can't it be grounded to the engine like the stock wiring? Same goes for the feed wires. I don't have answers. Once I receive mine, I can comment more knowledgeably. I will be looking to minimize connections, hence the one piece harness from relay to COP units. The rest, I don't know yet. I don't really see a big advantage in a COP setup...unless you are struggling with misfires they are not going to add much power of their own. They are a neater solution if installed from the factory..retrofitting like this kind of removes that main advantage. The 850s had a very decent distributor based ignition system, supports over 500hp if you want it to. So it seems a lot of hard work for the novelty. I find that the cap & rotor wear very quickly with the addition of the MSD6 box, and any reduction in moving/wear parts seems good to me. One less variable to be concerned with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaco Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 COP is not going to give you the same energy as your MSD box afaik. If your going COP (and getting rid of the MSD!) you might as well go back to the stock distrib system which won't wear out the rotor and cap. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotuner Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) I do kind of agree with JC-Viggen. This might sound bonkers coming from someone manufacturing and selling this COP product, but my opinion is that the COP conversion is probably only beneficial to those who need it, rather than to have it just because you can! Examples of needing it would be - 1. Fitting a T5 engine into some other car like a 240 where the bulkhead is in the way of the distributor. 2. Using a different cylinder head which doesn't facilitate using a distributor system. Video is here - http://www.youtube.c...h?v=QFQY8Di6NqU Edited February 9, 2011 by turbotuner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-D©©©L- Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 I do kind of agree with JC-Viggen. This might sound bonkers coming from someone manufacturing and selling this COP product, but my opinion is that the COP conversion is probably only beneficial to those who need it, rather than to have it just because you can! Examples of needing it would be - 1. Fitting a T5 engine into some other car like a 240 where the bulkhead is in the way of the distributor. 2. Using a different cylinder head which doesn't facilitate using a distributor system. Video is here - http://www.youtube.c...h?v=QFQY8Di6NqU 3. Using (or experimenting with) VVT on the intake cam. (timing !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconeman Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 (edited) 2. Using a different cylinder head which doesn't facilitate using a distributor system. that's why I originally wanted it but it's pretty easy to convert to disributor on the 99+ engines so if there is no significant gain in output to the plug then I guess I don't need it! I'm certainly not going for over 500 hp Hussien sorry for the thread jack. Back on track now. Hussein when do you expect to install your new head and intake set up? Edited February 10, 2011 by sconeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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