Ap Racing Big Bakes....And Ipd Bars

[steve s]

ive seen cars with them mounted both ways, does it matter?

that would be me. front goes forward (if the wheels are moving in the forward direction, the outer/top part of the slot would hit the pad first, inner would hit pad last), rears goes backward.

unless the manufacturer specifies otherwise.. for ventilated rotors, usually go with the internal ventilated direction. for solid rotors, usually the directions are swept backward.

[randomdude]

i meant ive seen cars with the front mounted either way. and it seems most commonly they will be mounted so that when going forward, they are backswept (the outer/top part of the slot hits last, and the lower/inner would hit first)

[Johann]

i meant ive seen cars with the front mounted either way. and it seems most commonly they will be mounted so that when going forward, they are backswept (the outer/top part of the slot hits last, and the lower/inner would hit first)

Totally depends on how the manufacturer thinks they should be mounted.

Is that very hard to understand?

It's about the inner vanes which determine the direction but not all manufacturers follow the same design or ideas about cooling.

This info can be found on the World Wide Web,

But it doesn't give 100% confirmation if your rotors need to be mounted that way.. :D

[randomdude]

no, its not hard to understand, when explained in a way that one can understand it. i didnt understnad it the first time around, so i asked further questions hoping to understand. i thought thats why we were here?

and i was originally (ignorantly) asking about the slots that the pad hit. i now UNDERSTAND that those dont matter. thank you for your reply.

[JCviggen]

If you want a better example of performance look at racing where almost no one uses AP

What kind of racing are you referring to?

AP racing is widely used in Formula 1 (8 out of 10 teams), GT racing, Rallying, moto GP, touring cars ... one could argue they "own" the high competition level racing.

http://www.apracing.com/info/aboutus.asp

And they are actually owned by Brembo since a 43 mil takeover in 2000.

[Che'_Moderator]

What kind of racing are you referring to?

AP racing is widely used in Formula 1 (8 out of 10 teams), GT racing, Rallying, moto GP, touring cars ... one could argue they "own" the high competition level racing.

http://www.apracing.com/info/aboutus.asp

And they are actually owned by Brembo since a 43 mil takeover in 2000.

Then you get my point. And That page is a little dated. Most of the pro teams brakes now are branded Brembo.

[JCviggen]

The 2009 F1 championship had 8 teams using AP racing brakes branded as such 2010 will be no different. Brembo is keeping it as a seperate entity as they have for years now. The BTCC, WTCC, DTM...all still on AP.

[Che'_Moderator]

NASCAR alone has more cars than all of those put together. I guess we are also overlooking IRL, WRC, GT, GTU, JTCC, MotoGP,

[JCviggen]

WRC, GT and MotoGP still have at least a decent portion of AP using teams.

You seemed to make the point AP racing isn't used in competition when in fact they are present and nearly dominate the highest forms of it. I just wanted to put that ignorance straight, and the examples are extremely plentiful.

[Captain Bondo]

The thing about Brembo is you can usually find take-offs for really cheap.

My 355mm Brembo GT kit was 1200 bucks. They were installed on a Mustang Cobra R of some sort, displayed, and taken off- they were completely new. You can't beat that. You just need some ingenuity and to do some research on what you can make work. :D

[Che'_Moderator]

WRC, GT and MotoGP still have at least a decent portion of AP using teams.

You seemed to make the point AP racing isn't used in competition when in fact they are present and nearly dominate the highest forms of it. I just wanted to put that ignorance straight, and the examples are extremely plentiful.

Which GT are you talking about? If you go by american GT its almost all alcon and brembo. MotoGP is also more brembo than AP. WRC is the same. I didn't say they were not used, I said they are not as common out side Europe. Saying they dominate the highest forms of racing is retarded when I do not think they are even used in JTCC, most Nascar, GTP, and several other bodies. They are present but dominating they are not. You quote all these numbers while leaving out key details. You say, "The 2009 F1 championship had 8 teams using AP racing brakes branded as such", when the actual statistic was "AP Racing Supplied 8 of the 10 teams with either Brakes and or Clutches". "You are as bad as the typical American you cast stones at. There is life outside northern Europe.

[JCviggen]

Endless (and pointless) discussion aside, the brembo and AP racing brakes one might find on a Volvo (or other street car) have very little in common with their competition equivalents so it's hardly going to matter IRL. And with "GT" I meant the european series that also visits the le mans 24h race. About F1 until recently only Ferrari (being italian) used brembo brakes, theres at least 1 more now.

[turboVULVA]

Correct me if i am wrong but slotted rotors are always better because you have more surface breaking area and the slots evenly wear the pads for a flusher contact right? But then again drilled rotors take a nice amount of weight off a rotor right?

[steve s]

...drilled rotors take a nice amount of weight off a rotor right?

for my 320x28 brembo, slotted vs drilled is only 0.2 kg difference