Thread About Nothin

[Mossback]

I already miss your attitude dearly hahaha and I was laughing more at the fact you got called a bro.

Well, If my fucked up life allows me to get back to Cali next summer, you better plan on driving up to Carlsen, we can watch yanger try to walk

[The Big Tuna]

I'll be there and at Davis as well, would love to see ya

Why can't yang walk? Did I miss something?

[Mossback]

Why can't yang walk? Did I miss something?

naw, he just parties hard. I'll be the designated driver as my tolerance has dropped so much since my mid 20's. I can't believe how cheap a drunk I am any more.

[The Big Tuna]

That's a good thing, I wish I got tanked really fast

[JackS60]

Pick a team in the last ten years that has won due to youth. Not the steelers, not the colts, not the pats, maybe the giants and saints borderline on youth but not really. Not the packers either cause most of their core team is old as hell

Patriots in 01 rallied around the young, energetic Tom Brady

Bucs in 02 had that young, feisty defense that was best in the NFL (Jermaine Phillips, Ronde Barber)

Patriots again in 03 and 04 due to bringing on a bunch of young defensive players (Ty Warren, Asante Samuel, Vince Wilfork) and receivers (Bethel Johnson, Benjamin Watson)

Steelers in 05 led by a young Big Ben and a defense that was still relatively young (Troy, Ike Taylor) -And don't even say The Bus was a big part of that team cause he was basically the short yardage back. YOUNG Willie Parker was clearly their #1 rusher

Colts in 06 can be considered the one exception because they simply won because the Bears stunk with Grossman and Manning was due

Giants in 07 due to their crazy young aggressive defensive line (Mathias Kiwanuka, Jay Alford, Barry Cofield, Justin Tuck) and young backs Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs, not to mention Eli was still quite young at that point

Steelers in 08 had a revamped young defense with linebackers Lamar Woodley and Laurence Timmons plus rookie back Rashard Mendenhall who began to take the reins from Willie Parker as the team's #1 back

Saints in 09 is the second exception of the last 10 years because simply they were a tremendous team built around the momentum from a city who wouldn't take anything less than a championship

Finally the Packers last year are the best example of a team succeeding due to developed young. Aaron Rodgers was young in his career (having sat behind Brett for so long), James Starks who came up big in place of Ryan Grant, Jordy Nelson who made himself into the best #3 receiver in the league and one of A-Rod's favorite targets, plus rookie Brian Bulaga made a huge difference on the offensive line. Onto the defense we then see BJ Raji, Clay Matthew's, Tramon Williams, Nick Collins, and AJ Hawk. The Packers were built around young last season, primarily why they are in place to become a dynasty if they can win this season and win going forward.

Listen, you guys don't know me that well, so let me quote all my friends..... "Don't argue sports with Jackson, he'll destroy you."

I'd follow their advice.

[The Big Tuna]

"Don't argue sports with Jackson, he'll destroy you."

I'd follow their advice.

I read this first and didn't even read anymore of the rest of your post. Calm down Jim Rome, you won't "destroy" us just cause you have a radio show, your just another dude who likes sports that's all it's is

[JackS60]

I read this first and didn't even read anymore of the rest of your post. Calm down Jim Rome, you won't "destroy" us just cause you have a radio show, your just another dude who likes sports that's all it's is

Whatever you have to think to help you sleep at night bro.

[Mossback]

. "Don't argue sports with Jackson, he'll destroy you." I'd follow their advice.

So you were 14 or so when the Seahawks played in the 06 Superbowl?

I'll admit, you know a lot of names, but you keep leaving out the effect of the overall organization. Its not just the youth.

I've been following college and the pros for a couple of years (since the early 70's) and the pattern emerges that the coaches and the GM's allow a team to keep winning consistently.

So, saying that, IMHO, Seahawks are going nowhere until they replace Carroll.

I'll check in with you next year at this time to see what's up.

:P

[Guest Atom]

I had my brother do a little checking and he calculated team age by weighing each player’s age proportionately to his percentage of contribution (as measured by the Approximate Value system) and the last 5 super bowl winning teams (I had him stop there. Seemed like a large enough sample set) fell somewhere in the MIDDLE of the spectrum of NFL teams for each corresponding year. Seriously not worth arguing over though. There are WAAAAAAAAAAAYY too many variables that go into every win on any given sunday.

Adam

PS, I had my brother run the numbers cause A: I'm way to busy to mess with this junk and B: He's a professional statistician with a doctorate in mathematics.

[JackS60]

So you were 14 or so when the Seahawks played in the 06 Superbowl?

I'll admit, you know a lot of names, but you keep leaving out the effect of the overall organization. Its not just the youth.

I've been following college and the pros for a couple of years (since the early 70's) and the pattern emerges that the coaches and the GM's allow a team to keep winning consistently.

So, saying that, IMHO, Seahawks are going nowhere until they replace Carroll.

I'll check in with you next year at this time to see what's up.

I'm not saying the Hawks will win a SB with Carroll, that's likely not happening. But he can probably get us a couple or few more division titles. Not like the Rams have any better organizational setup. I know what you mean the effect of the overall organization, it's a theory of winning built upon the foundations of good coaching. Mike McCarthy is a great coach who learned under others for years. Carroll on the other hand was head in NY and NE and then USC, he didn't directly learn under a better coach in the NFL, which if you look is where much success comes from. I mean that's why Holmgren was so good, learning under Bill Walsh. Heck, that's why many of the teams who have been great over the last 10-15 years have been good- because their coaches learned under another. So yea, I don't expect much. What I'm saying is there's no better organization in the division. The Rams just don't have it I believe. Jackson's going to lose it soon. And their secondary is just so terrible.

On a side note, growing up my family had one tv. So on Saturday mornings when I wanted to watch cartoons, my dad made me watch college football. I may not have been following it since the 70s, but I've been watching sports since I could talk. Heck, I couldn't name you 5 cartoons I watched as a kid. Yet I can tell you all about how Ron "The Dayne Train" won the Heisman at ...Wisconsin (I believe?...or Nebraska) then went to the NFL and sucked basically. One decent year in NY but then crumbled.

[JackS60]

I had my brother do a little checking and he calculated team age by weighing each player’s age proportionately to his percentage of contribution (as measured by the Approximate Value system) and the last 5 super bowl winning teams (I had him stop there. Seemed like a large enough sample set) fell somewhere in the MIDDLE of the spectrum of NFL teams for each corresponding year. Seriously not worth arguing over though. There are WAAAAAAAAAAAYY too many variables that go into every win on any given sunday.

Adam

PS, I had my brother run the numbers cause A: I'm way to busy to mess with this junk and B: He's a professional statistician with a doctorate in mathematics.

Agreed, there are tons of variables. I'd like to see the math that he did and this "Approximate Value System". I still believe, more cores of SB winning teams are built around young developed talent. You don't see many teams like the 49ers win with a player like Alex Smith who suddenly becomes good without any sort of steady increase. Heck I'm not even sure Tony Romo will ever have what it takes. And he's a much better QB overall. Teams like Atlanta (Ryan), Detroit (Stafford), and NY (Sanchez) are doing it right. I'd be surprised if they all don't win SBs in the next 5 or so years. Especially the Jets. Shonn Green needs to pick it up though, which will then open up the passing game further for Mark, who always have numerous weapons.

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[The Big Tuna]

Whatever you have to think to help you sleep at night bro.

Being arrogant and cocky will only get you so far in life ;)

[The Big Tuna]

I'm sharing this from my FB page cause this pissed me off so much

I read this response to an article that I saw talking about making same sex marriages legal in WA state.

"Marriage is the union of a man and a woman that is blessed by God. All the laws in the world can't change that.

Maybe this is a good example. If you own a puppy but want people to call it a kitten you can go so far as to make it a law that everyone call your puppy a kitten. Of course you know it's really a puppy, everyone else knows it's a puppy. Most people follow the law but snicker to themselves when they call it a kitten."

This is why I could never do debate class or be a politition, I'd just shoot somebody

[RZT5]

Saw that on your fb page. You can't reason or even talk with people like that, its like trying to communicate with a being from another universe with an IQ of 2.