TRACStar Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 It will only take $2000 if you buy everything brand new. My wagon would walk HEMI magnums from anything over 20mph with nothing but a $300 used IPD tune, and they are about 300lbs. lighter than the 300. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
854TGA+ Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 If I put 5-6k$ into my 850 and I was only at 300 wheel I would be sad.. You have a built motor and your still using a ridiculously SMALL turbo!! to OP, heres a fast budget build 1. Stage 0 (vac lines, filters etc etc etc) 20$-250$ 2. Tune (Upsolute, IPD, InMotion, WothRline etc etc)200$-600$ 3. Turbo upgrade (18t,19t,k24..dont bother with a 16t..) 4. OBX downpipe/exhaust 350$ 5. EBC/MBC 5$-300$ with a combination of these mods you should be netting anywhere from 250-300whp safely on stock block if you do it right, you shouldnt have to spend more than 1000$ to be faster than 90% of the cars on the road enjoy Longbeach Not sure if I saw a 13.67 quarter in your signature ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snabb T5M Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Is this directed at me.................. I see what you are commenting on now, the guy's comment about my "ridiculously small turbo" and him not having a 13.67 1/4 mile time. Well, to that guy, why would I want to put in a K24 or bigger turbo, in a manual car, and have gears 1-3 be useless to me. While it is enjoyable driving at 60mph on the highway and being able to pull on someone, it only takes one dumb mistake by someone and the fun is over. I would rather go to the dragstrip, run the quarter mile in safety and have concrete results of the car's performance. I would also put my 18T car up against anyone else's Volvo running a K24 or bigger turbo in the quarter mile and see what happens. I think I have done a damn good job with my car, some Volvo factory parts and some other key aftermarket parts. For the cost of putting in "your" bigger turbo and getting it tuned properly (need TT), I would prefer to save that $2K and put it towards getting a '70 Chevelle 454 that can effectively use all that horsepower. Not sure if I saw a 13.67 quarter in your signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
854TGA+ Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Is this directed at me.................. No, not you. The cat that was knocking your turbo choice ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBoost Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Well like Boxpin corrected, going to take about $2000 to perhaps beat the Hemi. IpD Tune $695 new turbo $700 3" DP/exhasut $500 - 1000 mbc/ebc $30 - 600 doesnt need to be ipd Used tune stage 2 or 3 (200-400$) 19t (350$ easily obtained) OBX downpipe (150$) MBC that is under 1k and you can find 19t's all day for under 4 bills Is this directed at me.................. I see what you are commenting on now, the guy's comment about my "ridiculously small turbo" and him not having a 13.67 1/4 mile time. Well, to that guy, why would I want to put in a K24 or bigger turbo, in a manual car, and have gears 1-3 be useless to me. While it is enjoyable driving at 60mph on the highway and being able to pull on someone, it only takes one dumb mistake by someone and the fun is over. I would rather go to the dragstrip, run the quarter mile in safety and have concrete results of the car's performance. I would also put my 18T car up against anyone else's Volvo running a K24 or bigger turbo in the quarter mile and see what happens. I think I have done a damn good job with my car, some Volvo factory parts and some other key aftermarket parts. For the cost of putting in "your" bigger turbo and getting it tuned properly (need TT), I would prefer to save that $2K and put it towards getting a '70 Chevelle 454 that can effectively use all that horsepower. You have a built motor. You have an 18t. seeing these two together makes a tear come to my eye...such a waste Get a bigger turbo. Not sure if I saw a 13.67 quarter in your signature Last 1/4 on leaky intercooler and street tires 13.85 @ 108 that is on an InMotion 200$ tune.. learn how to drive manual and if you cant hit a sub 14 time on a manual swapped 18t/19t setup your not doing it right not to mention my RT was .7 on that run 2001 T5 2.3 block is going in, fully rebuilt. Port/polished head/Japanifold GT30 thats sittin in my garage is going on when TT arrives should be over 350 wheel http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=378079&l=4db6f07597&id=100000716302083 cant post images so heres the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBoost Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 It will only take $2000 if you buy everything brand new. My wagon would walk HEMI magnums from anything over 20mph with nothing but a $300 used IPD tune, and they are about 300lbs. lighter than the 300. Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdlimy Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 $2000 for a standalone ems $800 for a decent t3/t4 $1000 for rods and pistons $1000 for fuel shit then misc machining costs build that and ur good for like 400 easy, shits not that hard to do if you have 6k to spend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRACStar Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Last 1/4 on leaky intercooler and street tires 13.85 @ 108 I ran faster than that with an auto and a 16T not to mention my RT was .7 on that run Has nothing to do with ET, most open nights at tracks are "test & tune" and RT has no effect on ET, you could sit at the line for 2 minutes. I just don't want you thinking you have a 13.1 sec car ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazen244 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I have the R ECU installed now I'm looking for more. I've been in contact with a company that does the RICA tune do anybody have any experience with their tune. I'm still looking to be able to drive the car daily, what would be the best tune. Also will the 19t bolt up or are there mods that need to be done to make this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicaljake Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Is this directed at me.................. I see what you are commenting on now, the guy's comment about my "ridiculously small turbo" and him not having a 13.67 1/4 mile time. Well, to that guy, why would I want to put in a K24 or bigger turbo, in a manual car, and have gears 1-3 be useless to me. While it is enjoyable driving at 60mph on the highway and being able to pull on someone, it only takes one dumb mistake by someone and the fun is over. I would rather go to the dragstrip, run the quarter mile in safety and have concrete results of the car's performance. I would also put my 18T car up against anyone else's Volvo running a K24 or bigger turbo in the quarter mile and see what happens. I think I have done a damn good job with my car, some Volvo factory parts and some other key aftermarket parts. For the cost of putting in "your" bigger turbo and getting it tuned properly (need TT), I would prefer to save that $2K and put it towards getting a '70 Chevelle 454 that can effectively use all that horsepower. i agree with you for the mostpart... other then.. if you had a slightly larger turbo... the torque onset wouldn't be quite as harsh... i feel like you would have less wheel spin with sayy.. a td05 16g.. then your td04 18t.... but also having the power higher in the RPMs.. more around where you would need it at the dragstrip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Betty Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I have the R ECU installed now I'm looking for more. I've been in contact with a company that does the RICA tune do anybody have any experience with their tune. I'm still looking to be able to drive the car daily, what would be the best tune. Also will the 19t bolt up or are there mods that need to be done to make this happen? send your brother over to me Blazen, Speed tuning is down near Laurel, if you buy the stg2 tune and come back with some dyno results I'm sure oliver can whip up an even better tune for you. Just a thought on the tune situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazen244 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 send your brother over to me Blazen, Speed tuning is down near Laurel, if you buy the stg2 tune and come back with some dyno results I'm sure oliver can whip up an even better tune for you. Just a thought on the tune situation I'll check them out tomorrow I'll give em' a call. Do you know of anyone running his tune or have they do work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Betty Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 They haven't do work on my car. If you search the board the general consensus is the tunes run rich. But rich is safer than lean. Thats also why I mentioned getting some dyno sheets to show Oliver after the first tune, so that he can lean it out and find some more power for you Also I believe the stg 2 is a 17 or 18psi tune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volvoskiah Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I have the R ECU installed now I'm looking for more. I've been in contact with a company that does the RICA tune do anybody have any experience with their tune. I'm still looking to be able to drive the car daily, what would be the best tune. Also will the 19t bolt up or are there mods that need to be done to make this happen? I have the IPD stage II, 19t, greens, 18-20psi on stock 200+ mile block. At this stage I love the IPD tune but will probably be using TT after my build. Try and find a used Stage III idp and i'm sure you will love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageVolvo Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Is this directed at me.................. I see what you are commenting on now, the guy's comment about my "ridiculously small turbo" and him not having a 13.67 1/4 mile time. Well, to that guy, why would I want to put in a K24 or bigger turbo, in a manual car, and have gears 1-3 be useless to me. While it is enjoyable driving at 60mph on the highway and being able to pull on someone, it only takes one dumb mistake by someone and the fun is over. I would rather go to the dragstrip, run the quarter mile in safety and have concrete results of the car's performance. I would also put my 18T car up against anyone else's Volvo running a K24 or bigger turbo in the quarter mile and see what happens. I think I have done a damn good job with my car, some Volvo factory parts and some other key aftermarket parts. For the cost of putting in "your" bigger turbo and getting it tuned properly (need TT), I would prefer to save that $2K and put it towards getting a '70 Chevelle 454 that can effectively use all that horsepower. First off congrats of the 1/4 mile times since that's your thing and nice Hp and trq on a 18t. Our cars are not the best 1/4 Mi cars. Secondly, I don't see a Quaife LSD mentioned in your sig, perhaps that's your traction problem And btw for a "Built Engine" an 18t is a TINY turbo. You REALLY need to be running a T3 50 trim or Gt2871R. If you had a quaife and GOOD boost management you could control traction endlessly. And you would not compromise your 1/4mi times too much. For example. My 350$ Gizzmo Ibc-r Ebc had RPM dependent boost spool gain. Others have scramble buttons, IT's quite easy to get traction in ALL GEARS< OK well 1st is a little tricky, but that's at 330+ wtrq That said I am not a straight line racer, I like canyons and keeping my rpms above 3.5k where almost all turbos are happy with 20Psi and Meth Inj TO the OP> AS suggested. Get a budget Stage 2 17psi tune , ST or IN-motion and an Obx Turbo back exhaust. You can buy both New on ebay for 800$ total For more Power A 19t turbo is 4-600$ on VS. 100$ for used larger injectors and Get a Good Ebc 300$ and your golden. A full Stage 0 is first necessary. SO yeah 1800-2000$ to do it Semi-Right. Also gutting the car can do wonders for improving your Times. I can walk a 2010 M3 from 60-120 with my 19t @ 20 Psi on Meth :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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