FAST850R Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Brake fluids were flushed, bleed the fluids, rotors and pads are still in good condition. I assume it's time for the SS lines :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dereswyman Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 One of the rear line is located on the driver's side a bit before the rear wheel. It will be bent sort of like a U shape. The other line is located about half way in between the two wheels where the rear sway bar is located. I have no idea how anybody can manage to install these lines with a resonator in the way, or at least the rear center line. This is my experience installing on an 850 wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Daddy Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 i tried to do the install and only managed to round off the fitting on the hard line. this was after heating well with a torch. i took it to a local shop. it was money well spent, both the lines and paying someone else to install them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggarcia Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 I installed the FCP ss brake lines last summer. I also installed the 302 front rotors, so I installed the longer 12" front brake lines. 10 months later everything looks like it did when I installed them, but not snow/ice during the winter. AG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 VII 7 Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 ugh, just got a call from my shop and one of the front SS lines was not drilled all the way through. So if you blow into one end of the line the air does not come out the other end. SO my shop is going to try to drill it out a bit... wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 VII 7 Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Well they were not able to drill it out, 3 of the 4 went on... so I have to get a new SS line from FCP and new fluid AND go back and get it done again... ugh $90 down the drain for labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Aaron-- Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Well they were not able to drill it out, 3 of the 4 went on... so I have to get a new SS line from FCP and new fluid AND go back and get it done again... ugh $90 down the drain for labor. DIY, don't be scurred. No bitching about labor, after all, you're the one that decided to pay it. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 VII 7 Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 DIY, don't be scurred. No bitching about labor, after all, you're the one that decided to pay it. I can't DIY dummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Aaron-- Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I can't DIY dummy. Do you has no arms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subayai Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Just to chime in with a slightly different opinion, the mushy brake feel is most likely caused by the under sized calipers on 850's. Since there is not enough braking surface area, we have to stomp on the brakes harder to get the car to slow down. I've upgraded with Stoptech SS lines (all 4 corners), switched to one of the best pads out there, Endless CCX's, on Brembo rotors (made a mistake and went cross drilled). My 850R has a slightly soft feel for the first cold stop. Once the pads have warmed up a tad, then they bring the whole show to a halt in a hurry, with great control. The "myth" about generic Stainless Steel lines is that they are better then the stock lines. I say myth because this is not always the case. A good stainless steel line has to have a teflon inner core to resist expansion, which good rubber hoses have as well. The stainless steel outer wrapping is typically not to prevent expansion, but is to protect the line from wear and tear. Here is a quick analogy to prove that point; you know those Chinese finger traps Well the diameter of the wrapping is the smallest when you are trying to pull your fingers out, and is at it widest when the tube is all compressed. Good quality SS lines should like a finger trap with your fingers in, or drawn out as tight as possible, otherwise the stainless steel can expand in diameter. A lot of cheaper brands do not pull the stainless tightly over the line, but add it for the cosmetic look. The more important question is what is the inside of the SS line made from, and hopefully it is either Teflon or PTFE. Here is an excellent description of what SS lines are all about: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_stainlesssteel_Q&A.shtml All that being said, it is really important if you are going to upgrade to SS lines that you buy good quality lines, and not some no-name generics, otherwise just replace them with Volvo factory lines. I used AJ-USA in San Diego as the source of my Stoptech lines, and the final cost $129.34 (shipping + CA state tax). A lot of web sites have the incorrect listing for the rears of the 850 Turbo's, the correct Stoptech parts are: Front: 950.34511 Rear: 950.39001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 VII 7 Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Do you has no arms? I dont have a place to do it. I did my brakes in my apt garage but I cant do anything involving liquids (bleeding brakes). I can't go to a parking lot because they are VERY strict around here and I dont want my car to get messed up and have to leave it overnight and get towed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brick-a-brac Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I have the FCP ones and they have cracked around rubber/plastic sheathing on the connector ends. I only installed them last summer, I would expect that the IPD ones should be better. I also live up in Toronto so the roads here are nasty in the winter with lots of salt so that my have helped wear them out a bit. I had the same experience with the set I bought from FCP. I held onto them until just today, as I wanted to show them to Scott the next time I saw him, but after a couple of years, it no longer felt worthwhile, and I put them out for recycling. IPD front lines seem to be holding up better after two New England winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Will Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I've had a set of 4 IPD SS brake lines on my wagon since 2005 IIRC. They saw 1 New England winter and have gone probably 80K miles and still look pretty new. I would endorse them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeach 850 Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I dont have a place to do it. I did my brakes in my apt garage but I cant do anything involving liquids (bleeding brakes). I can't go to a parking lot because they are VERY strict around here and I dont want my car to get messed up and have to leave it overnight and get towed. Yo dave, your simplemindedness will never cease to amaze me. you are a light in the dark for volvospeed...be it a dim one... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 VII 7 Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Well I called FCP, they are going to send me out a new line and new fluid since the shop used all the fluid to flush the system twice. Another reason FCP is great. I called my shop and they said they will only charge me half hour labor to do it all over again which is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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