Boxman Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 I see so many topics of Volvo 850 cars with SAS and users removing these systems. My questions are; - How does one identify if their engine is equipped with a SAS system? I can't seem to find anything about this. - If one has SAS, what are the benefits of removing/deleting this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergmjs Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Easiest way to tell is by your airbox, this image shows the difference. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/27295155.jpg/ The SAS system is rather costly to fix if it breaks. It's much cheaper and easier to just rip it all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxman Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Well I don't have that. But I also don't have EGR. Is this even possible, neither of those systems? So no emission control at all? It's a modelyear '95 850 T5 Estate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergmjs Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Well I don't have that. But I also don't have EGR. Is this even possible, neither of those systems? So no emission control at all? It's a modelyear '95 850 T5 Estate. Not sure about that. You sure you don't have EGR? How'd you check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxman Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 I checked if there was a valve somewhere near the tree on my inlet valve. Also there are only 2 vacuum lines attatched to my tree, my understanding was that there should be more if EGR is installed.. What's otherwise the best way to check for EGR?Also I live in the Netherlands (europe) so maybe we just don't have very strict emission requirements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergmjs Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Look directly under the throttle body, there would be a brass tube that connects the bottom of the intake manifold, wraps around the drivers side of the engine and connects to the exhaust manifold if you had EGR. If you have this stuff, you have EGR: http://volvospeed.com/volvo_repairs_how_tos/engine_repairs/exhaust_gas_recirculation_egr.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T5power Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 where are you from? Euro spec model years 95 (and i THINK early 96) came without EGR and SAS. since model years in the US are manufactured usually a year prior to release, 95 models are 94's, 94 models are actually 93's, so on and so forth. 94-95 was EGR, 97-98 was SAS. US 1996 models did not have either system. Edit: I see you're from the Netherlands. you would most likely have neither system unless yours is an early model 95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxman Posted September 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 So I can jump in the air screaming "YAY" as I have a model year 95 (says my VIN), am from europe, and thus have neither of those pesky systems? Woop woop! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergmjs Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 where are you from? Euro spec model years 95 (and i THINK early 96) came without EGR and SAS. since model years in the US are manufactured usually a year prior to release, 95 models are 94's, 94 models are actually 93's, so on and so forth. 94-95 was EGR, 97-98 was SAS. US 1996 models did not have either system. Edit: I see you're from the Netherlands. you would most likely have neither system unless yours is an early model 95. Not entirely true. Both my old 1996 and my girlfriend's current 1996 have SAS. And my '95 doesn't have any '94 stylings, as well as my brother's '94 didn't have '93 stylings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikv11 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Not entirely true. Both my old 1996 and my girlfriend's current 1996 have SAS. And my '95 doesn't have any '94 stylings, as well as my brother's '94 didn't have '93 stylings. Totally agree, my 96 also came with SAS. Now deleted. A way to be sure how the car shipped from the factory is just decode the VIN http://new.volvocars.com/ownersdocs/1996/1996_VIN-VIC/vin1996.html http://new.volvocars.com/ownersdocs/1995/1995_VIN-VIC/vin1995.html you can use the same format for any year, just change the URL. You will see 96 came with or without EGR, with or without air pump, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T5power Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Not entirely true. Both my old 1996 and my girlfriend's current 1996 have SAS. And my '95 doesn't have any '94 stylings, as well as my brother's '94 didn't have '93 stylings. what i mean is that the manufacturing date is one year frior for US vehicles. like what i'm trying to say is MOST of the 1998 S70's and V70's were built in 1997, with the hydraulic tensioner (mine was a 6/98 build, resulting in the newer style tensioner on my 2.3 block). US 1995 vehicles didn't have the old switches and dash because their model year was 1995. make sense? lol i'm thinking the N/A 1996's did not have SAS then? i'm not sure. Totally agree, my 96 also came with SAS. Now deleted. A way to be sure how the car shipped from the factory is just decode the VIN http://new.volvocars...IC/vin1996.html http://new.volvocars...IC/vin1995.html you can use the same format for any year, just change the URL. You will see 96 came with or without EGR, with or without air pump, etc. interesting. thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erikv11 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 i'm thinking the N/A 1996's did not have SAS then? i'm not sure. see above, my NA 96 shipped with SAS. Looking up the VIN is pretty much foolproof, unless there has already been an engine swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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