JCviggen Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 How they feel at various boost levels depends entirely on the engine they are strapped to and its airflow requirements I would think. You can get away with a lot more even at low rpm's if your turbo has a decent flowing exhaust side. For reliability I'd rather have a T3/4 hybrid on a stock lpt block than a 16T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublin14 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I see the -1 bandwagen tools are still at it :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T5Hammy Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I see the -1 bandwagen tools are still at it I'm pretty sure most everyone understood you, but now your being that guy who is holding onto the subject and wont Oh hush about it. So we get it, half this thread is you repeating yourself, now feel free to shut up. Oh and I may have -1'd the shite out of your repeats but when you had good advice I +1'd. and bandwagOn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublin14 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 I'm pretty sure most everyone understood you, but now your being that guy who is holding onto the subject and wont Oh hush about it. So we get it, half this thread is you repeating yourself, now feel free to shut up. Oh and I may have -1'd the shite out of your repeats but when you had good advice I +1'd. and bandwagOn And for good reason sunshine. And I only LOL at -1s on here anyways. This in the end is just a car forum, my rep isnt important. Lots of great guys on here, and lots of twats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jardim Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 So what Im getting here is that seems some people on here have the comprehenson skills of a 3 yr old. One more time for the ones who are just jumping on the band wagen an not actually reading WTF I have said 10 times over "I will repeat again.. All I am simply saying is a 50 trim or a 3076R or similar on a STOCK LPT at 19-20psi is pushing the engine to its limits or beyond, and I wouldnt think its great advice in saying to do it" For anyone on here that has somehow made that out to be me saying "IT CANT BE DONE" lacks comprehension. OP, im running T04E 50 trim (turbonetics) on my LPT motor and love it. car boosts 19.6PSI with internal gate and boost control. Id say def go for it, boost spools right up and makes the car a monster, im running it on a 98 V70R ECU with blue injectors and made 406 FWHP at 398ftlbs. but just remember there is a lot of fab work that needs to be done (downpipe, RIP, Intake ect.) But all in all a nice choice and will def get you at your goal. Nope. But I have run plenty of GLT engines... and you know why they let go?! No you don't. Because you have NEVER even run a GLT engine with any substantial amount of boost. I will REPEAT, just in case you didn't get it the first time, NONE OF MY ENGINES LET GO BECAUSE OF HIGHER BOOST. THEY LET GO BECAUSE OF LOW RPM RANGE BOOST. At least we know from doing, not reading what other people have done. You still have yet to explain why a GLT engine can't handle 19 psi from a 50trim. LOL this is too much. I will repeat again.. All I am simply saying is a 50 trim or a 3076R or similar on a STOCK LPT at 19-20psi is pushing the engine to its limits or beyond, and I wouldnt think its great advice in saying to do it I think a 50trim T04E at 14~16psi would be a nice setup really on an LPT. I don't see why it would be inefficient at that boost, I certainly can't see on the compressor map why it would be. Sure it's better at higher boost but the difference isn't vast. On a smaller displacement engine sure but on a 2.5L one it flows plenty at 14psi, in fact it puts you smack in the middle of the highest efficiency islands. I wouldn't go higher than 16 really keeping in mind its an LPT. I'd also go for a .63AR rather than .48 for the engine's sake. It'll spool quicker than on a turbo block anyway (higher CR ànd more displacement) and it'll allow the engine to breathe nicely unlike with a TD04 turbo. It should stay in one piece (nothing's ever guaranteed with these things obviously) and make excellent power. Don't see what all the fuss is about. So if i was a LPT Guy looking for a safe upgrading alternative, i would be confused and screwed because some people say 15-16 PSI is straight and others say 19-20 PSI is also straight..... Not trying to come out and diss anyone, i know you all know a good amount about your own cars but before we go on 4 pages of LPT nonsense, get dyno figures and show your car hasn't blown up yet then give advice. please the OP is probably sitting there in a dillema figuring out on what to do lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublin14 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 So if i was a LPT Guy looking for a safe upgrading alternative, i would be confused and screwed because some people say 15-16 PSI is straight and others say 19-20 PSI is also straight..... Not trying to come out and diss anyone, i know you all know a good amount about your own cars but before we go on 4 pages of LPT nonsense, get dyno figures and show your car hasn't blown up yet then give advice. please the OP is probably sitting there in a dillema figuring out on what to do lol. Its more about common sense. Anytime you slap on a big turbo with big boost on a stock LPT its going to be a crap shoot. If the OP wants to use a 50 trim or similar and be on the safer side, hes better of just using lower boost with a good tune and watch it at lower RPMs. If Big boost is needed, then hes better of just building the motor and not always wondering when it might go. Better safe than sorry which is basically what I have said from the start. And as JC Viggen pointed out at 15psi it would be a quick car for sure. So I hope if the OP goes that way, it works out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostedS70 Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Its more about common sense. Anytime you slap on a big turbo with big boost on a stock LPT its going to be a crap shoot. If the OP wants to use a 50 trim or similar and be on the safer side, hes better of just using lower boost with a good tune and watch it at lower RPMs. If Big boost is needed, then hes better of just building the motor and not always wondering when it might go. Better safe than sorry which is basically what I have said from the start. And as JC Viggen pointed out at 15psi it would be a quick car for sure. So I hope if the OP goes that way, it works out for him. thanks man im gona go with the 50 trim at 15-17 psi im going to run it with a gizzmo ibc-r, rpm dependant boost controller. i gota get some greens unless whites will be sufficentim not terrably worried about the engine i have motors redaily available to me at my shop and i can get a motor in and out in a day or too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dublin14 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 thanks man im gona go with the 50 trim at 15-17 psi im going to run it with a gizzmo ibc-r, rpm dependant boost controller. i gota get some greens unless whites will be sufficent im not terrably worried about the engine i have motors redaily available to me at my shop and i can get a motor in and out in a day or too. If you have access to motors, then thats perfect. Go with the greens at least. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 thanks man im gona go with the 50 trim at 15-17 psi im going to run it with a gizzmo ibc-r, rpm dependant boost controller. i gota get some greens unless whites will be sufficent im not terrably worried about the engine i have motors redaily available to me at my shop and i can get a motor in and out in a day or too. If you tune the car properly, and limit low end boost. You won't have to worry about the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fischmama Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 with a 50trim .63AR housing there really is no low end... and yes thats coming from me who is running a 2.5L engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jardim Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 thanks man im gona go with the 50 trim at 15-17 psi im going to run it with a gizzmo ibc-r, rpm dependant boost controller. i gota get some greens unless whites will be sufficent im not terrably worried about the engine i have motors redaily available to me at my shop and i can get a motor in and out in a day or too. You have a 98, Get a tune from lucky, everyone here who has a tune from him would recomend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostedS70 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 i alreadyhave an ARD tune lol and lucky is the man. its gona be the 50 trim now should i get a 48 a/r or 68 a/r. im gettin my gizzmo tonight so boost managment will be on point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb5 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think a 50trim T04E at 14~16psi would be a nice setup really on an LPT.... I'd also go for a .63AR rather than .48 for the engine's sake.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Agreed, Go with a .63. Quick spooliness of the .48 may kill your engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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