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Brad850

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Didn't wanna make another thread regarding my rms project but....

I figured with the engine out of the car it would be a great time to do the oil pan seals. Anyway, whoever installed the oil pan last I think used way too much sealant. Big chunks were oozing out of the block. I didn't want to break any bolts so chipped off as much sealant as I could see and then soaked the bolts in pb blaster.

Ending up snapping the majority of the shortest bolts that run the length of both sides of the engine.

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Tried everything I can to get these out. Used two different bolt extractor kits. Two different bolt extractors even broke off inside the bolts.

I don't get how they can be THAT tight. I was wondering what other options I have to get these out and if you guys could help me decide.

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I figure I can take that part of the block off ^^^ and send it to a shop to drill them out/ re tap. But I was wondering what taking that part off entails.

Im pretty sure the bolts that hold it on also hold on the crank bearings. If I can get it off without messing with the rods/crankshaft then I would be willing to do it this way.

Thankful for ANY input guys.

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Hmm nope. Aren't those just for when the head of the bolt is stripped? Even if they could grab the stud, some of them are so far in the block there's nothing to grab onto.

They're for stripped heads or studs. For the ones that still have a nub sticking out it's worth a shot. Use lots of PB on the threads and you can try applying some heat with a torch to the block.

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Can anyone tell me If I would be able to take that part of the block off without upsetting the crank shaft/ rods?

You can take that apart. It looks like you have the motor on a stand. Flip it over and take it apart. The piece you take off will have the lower main bearing shells in it. Take them out, but make sure you keep them in order so you can put them back in there original spot. Then you can take the part to someone to remove the broken bolts.

There are 2 different size bolts that you remove to get that part of the block off. You will need to replace the larger ones because they are stretch bolts, and can only be used once. You will also have to torque all the bolts.

Almost forgot, you'll need to take the t-belt off so you can remove the oil pump since it bolts to the upper and lower part of the block.

Might just be easier to take the whole motor to a machine shop and have them remove the bolts, than it would be to take it all apart.

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You can leave the oil pump in place by removing the lower bolts that tap into the intermediate block, thus the timing belt can stay. You will need to take off the serpentine belt pulley to get to the two bolts in question.

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Are you positive removing the two oil pump torx screws will work?

Every part of the intermediate block seems to want to come off except the oil pump area. It feels like there is still something holding it on and I'm scared to pry at it too much unless I'm sure there is nothing else holding it on.

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