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Second, I will just say it. Keep firearms away from poor people and this would never happen.

This doesn't compute. What does poverty have to do with death by firearm? Besides the obvious people are in more desperate straits when poor and living on the edge has a tendency to push people over the edge to commit crimes.

But it sounds like you're saying poor people are dumb and less careful with weapons.

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But it sounds like you're saying poor people are dumb and less careful with weapons.

Its a blanket statement with exceptions but, YUP. If you make 8 figures you are not gonna rob a 7-11. If you make 8 figures and do snap you will kill your wife or something, not a shopping mall. If you pay 20k to buy an A1 M16, you are not gonna leave it around to get lost or stolen.

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Oh see I thought we were talking about the bottom 16% that live below the poverty line or even Romney's 47%. I didn't realize we were talking about the 99%. Disarm them, give the bows and arrows, and start a new Olympics called the hunger games. At least then the death will benefit someone.

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Oh see I thought we were talking about the bottom 16% that live below the poverty line or even Romney's 47%. I didn't realize we were talking about the 99%. Disarm them, give the bows and arrows, and start a new Olympics called the hunger games. At least then the death will benefit someone.

Even limit bottom 20% Same effect

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We are just fascinated with killing each other. Always have, probably always will be.

War is man's natural state. It's not fascination, it's man's nature.

From Hume:

Whoever can find the means either by his services, his beauty, or his flattery, to render himself useful or agreeable to us, is sure of our affections: As on the other hand, whoever harms or displeases us never fails to excite our anger or hatred. When our own nation is at war with any other, we detest them under the character of cruel, perfidious, unjust and violent: But always esteem ourselves and allies equitable, moderate, and merciful. If the general of our enemies be successful, `tis with difficulty we allow him the figure and character of a man. He is a sorcerer: He has a communication with daemons; as is reported of Oliver Cromwell, and the Duke of Luxembourg: He is bloody-minded, and takes a pleasure in death and destruction. But if the success be on our side, our commander has all the opposite good qualities, and is a pattern of virtue, as well as of courage and conduct. His treachery we call policy: His cruelty is an evil inseparable from war. In short, every one of his faults we either endeavourto extenuate, or dignify it with the name of that virtue, which approaches it. `Tis evident the same method of thinking runs thro' common life.

Of course you could just take Hobbes' perspective and the dismal attitude is apparent (though he claimed we departed this natural attitude once men were joined in a contractual relationship called the nation):

Hereby it is manifest that, during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war, and such a war as is of every man against every man. For ‘war’ consisteth not in battle only or the act of fighting, but in a tract of time wherein the will to contend by battle is sufficiently known, and therefore the notion of ‘time’ is to be considered in the nature of war, as it is in the nature of weather. For as the nature of foul weather lieth not in a shower or two of rain but in an inclination thereto of many days together, so the nature of war consisteth not in actual fighting but in the known disposition thereto during all the time there is no assurance to the contrary. All other time is ‘peace.’

Whatsoever therefore is consequent to a time or war where every man is enemy to every man, the same is consequent to the time wherein men live without other security than what their own strength and their own invention shall furnish them withal. In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain, and consequently no culture of the earth, no navigation nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea, no commodious building, no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force, no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time, no arts, no letters, no society, and, which is worst of all, continual fear and danger of violent death, and the life of man solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

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just saw something that got me thinking.

gun bashes, raffles etc.

i go to a couple a year, i've never won so its a non issue and i categorize any money wagered as going to a good cause, generally turkey or duck wildlife.

if all I want is done, this will disappear.

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