ARD - Lucky Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Let's take a fast forward into our Non turbo build that will be happening in the next few weeks. So many times non turbo owners jump on the forums and ask what they can do to improve performance and power and are met with the old stand by answer, “Sell it and buy a turbo”. While this advice may actually be well intentioned, and possibly the best option for a high powered build, there are still ways to improve the performance of these non turbo models. Our scheduled build is intended to be very approachable to the average owner with off the shelf parts and tuning of our 1995 Volvo 850. So let’s start by outlining the build and talk about what we can expect. First things first, not all non turbos are equal. With regard to the 850 chassis primarily there are two fuel systems used in the non turbo models. From 1993-1994 the LH 3.2 Fuel system was used and can be easily identified by the use of two ECU’s to control the engine, one for fueling and one for ignition. Later 1995 and up models used only one ECU as Volvo switched to Motronic engine management version 4.3. The earlier systems are harder to make gains with since the rudimentary LH system is not exactly brimming with technology that can be easily modified for power gains. So for the rest of this article we’ll focus on 1995 and later cars including the Denso fuel systems that were used in non turbo cars starting in 1999. Tuning I’ve started tuning the car already just to get a sense of how hard we can push the timing advance in stock form by simply taking advantage of the improved gasoline quality that is available day by day at your local gas pump. The added ethanol and other additives allow us to add as much as 6 degrees timing advance in spots on the ignition map. The fuel and ignition calibrations from a car that is nearly 20 years old are unsurprisingly out dated with respect to today’s fuel content and quality. This translates to a much peppier car coming of the line and down the midrange. With some added enrichment I think we can provide a very notable increase in power. Granted it won’t be quite as considerable as the 30-35 bhp we can so easily attain with tuning turbo models but should help scoot us down the quarter mile drag. Air intake The plan for the air intake is to swap out the original long runner 850 manifold for a shorter runner ME7 manifold from a later 1999+ car out fitted with a 70mm throttle body and K&N Shrouded intake. This along with some cam timing and tuning should bring the power band further up the rev range where it naturally tends to fall off. This is in hope to spread the power over a broader section of the RPM range which will help get us down the track more quickly. Shorter runners are more desirable for taking advantage of intake wave pulses at higher RPM’s which can promote dynamic cylinder filling that exceeds 100%. Sort of like turbocharging but without the turbo. Exhaust For this one we’re going simple, high flow OBX header and a cat back system from the turbo cars as the piping is larger diameter and freer flowing Ignition The folks at Eurosporttuning.com were kind enough to donate an MSD coil kit for our build. Thanks to Frank for offering to be a part of this! We’re running Bosch Motorsports plugs even though these are overkill for this setup, but they needed replaced and we had them on hand J The remainder of our Stage 0 maintenance has all been completed including cap/rotor and wires. Misc We’ll add on the ARD light weight crank pulley just to help shed as much unnecessary weight as we can as well as remove the 5lb resonance block under the center console (You can see the yellow weighted block in the picture below) We’ll leave the spare and jack in the boot since that’s an everyday item we all would normally travel with. We’ve got all our parts in hand and we’ll be heading to the track first though to get some baseline data on the car in stock form and also stock plus a tune. Then the following week it’s install time and all the go fast parts will be installed and tuned for, then we’re back to the track to see if we can make this little green monster go! Robert Lucky ArnoldARDtuning.com It's testing time for this weeks Fast Friday article and we're back from the track on part 2 of the non-turbo build. To recap, last week we outlined our plan for tuning and parts upgrades for the 1995 850 non-turbo automatic that we've chosen as our test mule and this week we'll be reviewing our preliminary data on stock performance as well as how the car performed with no parts upgrades and just tuning! I'd like to start out by saying thanks to Kyle E. from the V shop for being our driver during our testing. Kyle has more time on the track than just about anyone I know and he's well known in the local scene for the work he's done on his non-turbo 240 as well as his consistency on the quarter mile. He's the perfect candidate to provide feedback during our testing and provided some great input during the runs, thanks Kyle! To Begin... Weather When we arrived at the track weather was not looking good and we got caught in a few sprinkles that seemed to threaten the evenings events for sure. However after a 30 minute wait, the weather cleared, we got the go ahead from the tower, and we lined up on the grid! The first run put down a surprising 17.16 second run with a 2.55 60 foot time. Not too bad for a bone stock 225K mileage automatic transmission 850. Thanks to Kyles consistent launching the second attempt (also bone stock) ran a 17.14 with a 2.67 60 foot time. If nothing else this little machine is consistent and these were the kind of numbers we were hoping to see in stock form so far so good! Prior development I'd be driving the car all week doing some road testing and had gotten what I thought was a pretty solid tune file. Midrange was really snappy compared to stock and the fuel economy had even increased by 3 mpg quite consistently. The car was much more enjoyable to drive and with some considerable addition to the part throttle timing maps I was surprised how well the car behaved. With this in mind I really expected to see some decent time shaved of the quarter mile ET but I was in for a bit of a surprise, and not the good kind -- As you well know in a quarter mile drag the throttle control for a lower output engine, aside from the launch, is essentially foot hard down all the way. However that's not the way we typically drive cars on the street -- at least I hope not. I had spent considerable time in mid-range tuning which had netted a clearly improved power output and efficiency but when I translated this to the wide open throttle maps I had over advanced the timing such that the ECU was hearing mild detonation and in turn we suspected it was pulling timing back. This reduced power and left us with our first tune run at 17.23, actually slower! After a second run at 17.31 we knew for sure the ECU was retarding ignition timing and we needed to go back over the WOT timing curve.Redo We were running out of time but I wanted to at least get some type of gain from tuning as I knew there was some room for improvement over stock mapping. Starting from scratch I free handed the timing map for WOT and re-curved the enrichment map for fueling. Without my ignition angle calculator I had to work the ignition advance in my head quickly as we were realistically were only going to get one or two more runs in before the night was over. With that done we loaded the ECU and sent Kyle back to the grid! After the first run we saw some improvement but Kyle felt he could get a bit better launch and get us into the 16' so he went back to the grid for one last run. With an excellent launch and a better timing map we saw a 16.91 with a 2.53 60 foot time. Not astounding by any means but it proved there was room in the tuning for improvement even if we only had time for a quick remap in the pits. With more time and testing I think we can get the ET down to 16.5 and if time permits we'll be testing again this Saturday. We'll ideally plan to just tune on Saturday with some adjustments to cam timing while were on site. Then during the following week we'll install all our hard parts and finally return the week after for final runs down the track! Retrospect I realize the numbers on this build aren't the most exciting and of course the experience at the track was one that incurred some learning that partly slowed development, but I've come to find these happy accidents are just that --. something unintended but not necessarily undesirable. With that in mind I'm excited to continue the work on this and see what else we'll learn as we move forward. I hope you'll stay with us as the saga continues! 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ARD - Lucky Posted May 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 With intake systems being one of the more popular upgrade parts for vehicles, and with consideration to the upgraded intake system on the non turbo build, let's take this week and talk about engine breathing and intake systems!The Sum of Go Fast Bits This week it's all about the install as we take our collection of go fast bits and fasten them down onto the engine! Install went quite well and honestly is pretty much within the grasp of the average enthusiast so I hope to see this be more than a one of a kind build.Pulley The easiest part we installed, we lost 4lbs of weight from the OE unit by replacing with the lightweight unit from ARD, will it help….? Who knows but lowering weight won't make us slower Ignition coil It's a family affair when the manchild steps in to install our MSD coil from Eurosport. Cutting off the old rivets and bolting up the included bracket makes it fit like a glove! Exhaust Our original header was shockingly full of carbon such that, by my measurements, over 10% of the flow was reduced by virtue of the caked up junk. That alone should give us some benefit. Battery We rotated the battery mount 90 degrees to give us a bit more room for the routing of the air filter and inlet tube. Ultimately it wasn't all that necessary but since it's such an easy mod that requires no parts it seemed worth it anyway.Airflow We enlarged the air inlet openings behind the front grill to help encourage airflow into the intake as well as provide additional flow over the radiator to keep temps down as much as we could. Intake This was bar far the most unknown part of this build. Everything told me it should work but how hard would it be to make fit? Turns out.. not bad! A lot of back and forth with the install to make everything bolt up but once we were done it looked like an OE fitment… aside from the dry flow K&N filter. This is the more involved part of the build so we'll spend the most discussing that. First, the boss on the side of the manifold directly interferes with power steering reservoir so it has to be shaved off. I left the surface rough for the pic so you could see the area in question. Once done we smoothed it out a bit with the sander. Note: We had to remove the PS pump to be able to fit the intake into position then reinstall the PS pump. Without this step we could not get the manifold to clear the PS pump return line.Second, The new 70mm throttle body came with a base mounting plate that we drilled and then tapped into the factory manifold, the 70mm throttle body then screwed down onto the mounting plate for a straight forward install. The reason we chose the 70mm throttle body is that the opening in the intake manifold was also exactly 70mm. This keep the air flow laminar and prevent being disrupted by diameter changes. Stock throttle body and manifold inlet is 65mm. Third, The TPS had to be re-located to the new throttle body. Fortunately the shaft diameters are identical so a few drilled holes later and we were in business. Fourth, The factory throttle cable was about 4 inches too short to be able to connect up to the new throttle body so a bit of cable from a previous project allowed us to lengthen it enough to grab on to the bell crank. After that we used the factory throttle cable mount and bolted it up to the far right (unused) manifold mounting hole by cutting it down a touch and bolting it on.Fifth, The PCV had to be reconfigured as the original system was integrated into the air inlet tube. Going back to the early red block PCV of similar design made connecting up to the oil separator box a dream. Connected right into the high flow filter we used and then routed to the hard plastic line from the oil separator box. Vacuum nipple off the side was connected to the inlet manifold itself. Sixth, We used an oil dipstick tube and dipstick from a later ME7 car so it would bolt up to the new intake manifold as the mounting point is different from the early to late manifold design.Seventh, Wiring for TPS and MAF had to be extended by about 6 inches to reach the new sensor locations. Proper soldering and shrink wrap made quick work of that. Note for this build we deleted the EGR and the IAC. This was done for both simplicity and ease, although we did use software from later model cars without EGR so the tailpipe emissions are not negatively impacted. IAC removal does mean the idle can be affected a bit when the A/C compressor turns on but this proved to be a minor issue and wasn't nearly as impactful as I initially suspected.Eighth, the intake runners are of a slightly different shape from older to newer style so we used a Snabb intake manifold spacer from the later model cars and shaped the back side to form a smooth transition from the manifold to the head. This allows for smooth laminar flow transition from the intake manifold and doesn't upset injector spray pattern enough to be of consequence. Now it's time to get track side! Stay tuned for the final episode of our non-turbo build! Robert Lucky ArnoldARDtuning.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARD - Lucky Posted May 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 I copied and pasted this from MVS I did a few weeks ago, not sure why the text backdrop is blue..... None the less, here for your enjoyment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow95 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Interesting stuff. And just when I started looking for an NA 5 speed wagon......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizzard_al Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Where did you get the throttle body, and which redblock PCV system were you using? would the ME7 NA intake manifold work as well? The throttle body is then near the same location as the stock one for stock intake manifold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 I copied and pasted this from MVS I did a few weeks ago, not sure why the text backdrop is blue..... None the less, here for your enjoyment Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 Lucky, can you post more pictures of the throttle cable setup? And just to clarify you used a stock non turbo TB with a 960 plate right? I have a Me7 intake manifold from a NA sitting around and I'd love to make it work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phunktified Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 curious on the TB setup myself, I have a few ME7 intake manifolds laying around .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dharker55 Posted May 4, 2013 Report Share Posted May 4, 2013 mooooarrrr........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caanglin Posted May 5, 2013 Report Share Posted May 5, 2013 Interesting stuff. And just when I started looking for an NA 5 speed wagon......... Would that happen to be a red GLT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Mac Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 So thiiiiiiis is what you meant. I dig it, keep up the good work Mr. Tuna! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98t5M Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Sweet! Can't wait to see the new 1/4 mile results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow95 Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Would that happen to be a red GLT? I was but it seems to have disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalvin Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 Lucky, can you post more pictures of the throttle cable setup? And just to clarify you used a stock non turbo TB with a 960 plate right? I have a Me7 intake manifold from a NA sitting around and I'd love to make it work He's using an aftermarket TB that is actually slightly larger than a plain NA TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted May 6, 2013 Report Share Posted May 6, 2013 He's using an aftermarket TB that is actually slightly larger than a plain NA TB. I've been looking at using a Audi A8 or a BMW 7 series TB, those things are giant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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