rcstdad Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Good deal. Thanks for the details and pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilber33 Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 I really want to know if that is standard for camber plates to do that with the strut. I feel like that's really bad for it. Anyone else running camber plates? Do they not allow the strut insert to turn when you steer? I did a quick Google search and found a BMW forum that talked about this. A few said it was normal for theirs not to allow the strut insert to spin. Others said that their loosened up after a little while and then spun freely. Maybe try a lubricant in there to see if it helps any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woah4 Posted August 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Thanks, I'll be sure to do that tommarow, I'll toss some 3 In 1 on there and let you know what happens. I just don't want to use something too aggressive and take away from any lubricant they may have came with packed in there. But it's obviously not working so it's worth a shot, it's really my largest concern with these, I feel it would wear my struts (or at least seals in struts) down FAST but I guess we will see. Cheers, -Billy I really want to know if that is standard for camber plates to do that with the strut. I feel like that's really bad for it. Anyone else running camber plates? Do they not allow the strut insert to turn when you steer? I did a quick Google search and found a BMW forum that talked about this. A few said it was normal for theirs not to allow the strut insert to spin. Others said that their loosened up after a little while and then spun freely. Maybe try a lubricant in there to see if it helps any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilber33 Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 So would I. But like I read, some people say that is how they are designed. Did you try spin the bearing thing or whatever it's called to see if there was any movement before you put them in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woah4 Posted August 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Well that was how I realized they did not work, after I tightened them down on the struts before I installed them in the car I tried turning just the outside of the plate where it bolts to the tower and holding the strut housing in place, and it just turned the rod with the plate, no movement in that ball at all. To be fair I have not looked with the car sitting on the ground to see what moves and what doesn't, I will do that tommarow. I don't imagine it would be any different, unless the extra weight on the shafts makes them harder to twist thus moving the bearing, I will report back tommarow to let you know. -Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woah4 Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Soooo yep, the shafts are turning inside the housings just like they were before I installed them. So I guess we will see if they free up or what.. I put some 3 in one on there, will have to wait and see if it's soaks in and does some magic. Oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkaplan Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I wouldn't worry too much about the shaft not spinning the bearing but spinning the strut shaft in the housing. Those struts can go up and down 100s of times per minute, a little spinning won't be a problem. What you need to be worried about is if it there's any binding keeping the shaft from becoming aligned. If the ball of the bearing is poor quality or undersized they can distort from the torque of the nuts and cause bearing to lock up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woah4 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Yeah it's not really the turning motion, it's more if there was dirt on the shaft, and THEN it turned, that dirt would wear the seal down. But only time will tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamdrives Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 What do the camber plates accomplish? (sorry to go off topic but curious) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilber33 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 For coilovers the way the small spring seat sits on the factory spring seat it can ruin the seat really fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVC Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 For coilovers the way the small spring seat sits on the factory spring seat it can ruin the seat really fast. They also remove the failure point of an OEM strut mount while allowing you to adjust camber based on moving the top mounting point of the shock shaft inwards or outwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woah4 Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 And a little bling bling for good measure lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S70-R Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Any update on these? The coilover really doesn't turn as a whole piece and instead the shock rod turns? That doesn't sound any good.. I've fitted my JOM coilovers today and I tried the lower as possible and the center of the stock spring seat has just been pushed up so much! I have a lot spring seat noises as well. The ride with this lower is terrible. Very very stiff and bumpy. I need to raise it and I'm also considering alternatives to the stock spring seat. Don't know if these plates really are an alternative as they seem to have that con. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S70-R Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Looking closer to your pictures and to ebay pictures, I'm confused and don't know if that's your problem or not. In your pictures I see that between coilovers spring seat and plate spacer you put a nut. However, as I can see from ebay image (below), you should have coilover spring seat, a little spacer (that seems to allow the coilover to turn as a hole), plate and top nut. Top nut probably also turns together with the shock rod, provided you have no nut between the coilover spring seat and place spacer. Right? When you add a nut before the spacer and tight it you are probably not allowing it to turn. It is hard to tell when we don't have the product in hands and when there's no instructions but when I am saying sounds any pausible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woah4 Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Yeah that was my mistake on initial install it has since been corrected. They are working fine, a small amount of corrosion over the winter but not half as bad as the TA's they are connected to. The pillow balls eventually broke in and they turn now, they were very right before and the strut shaft was turning but now that is no longer the case. The only other issues I have had are that the top nuts loosen over time so I have to stay on top of that and the Allen screws used for camber adjustment loosen off also. Probably could be fixed with some loc-tite, I just tighten them about once a month and all is well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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