S8ET6 Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 48 minutes ago, Burn-E said: Yes, Kermit the Frog, er I mean Alan Keyes: Those were good times... that and Blago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2015/12/16/cruz-obama-has-banned-anti-muslim-speech/ reality has escaped this man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 You're mistaking calculated statements of political signaling for realistic sentiment. Cruz is doing his best to excite the far right masses because he knows that that is where the voter base is for many Republican primaries. He also knows that what he is saying is not exactly the truth but he couches it in a way that it's not too far of a reach to be true. While I may think he's too conservative for my tastes, you would be making a mistake to consider Cruz a nut job or stupid. Nothing he does is without a well considered rationale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge_Brownie Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 The gubmint and dat o'bummer is trying to silence you. The turrerists are gonna win if we don't hurry up and persecute a religion. O'bummer is violating our rights to violate some other people's rights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Preach brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Found this on Amazon. This was the most relevant thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I gotta say there few people I despise more than Michael Moore and yet thanks to Donald Trump here I am nodding my head and laughing at his take down of "Donny" "Today I went & stood in front of Trump Tower & held a sign until the police came. Then I went home & wrote Donald a letter. Here it is: Dear Donald Trump: You may remember (you do, after all, have a "perfect memory!"), that we met back in November of 1998 in the green room of a talk show where we were both scheduled to appear one afternoon. But just before going on, I was pulled aside by a producer from the show who said that you were "nervous" about being on the set with me. She said you didn't want to be "ripped apart" and you wanted to be reassured I wouldn't "go after you." "Does he think I'm going to tackle him and put him in a choke hold?" I asked, bewildered. "No," the producer replied, "he just seems all jittery about you." "Huh. I've never met the guy. There's no reason for him to be scared," I said. "I really don't know much about him other than he seems to like his name on stuff. I'll talk to him if you want me to." And so, as you may remember, I did. I went up and introduced myself to you. "The producer says you're worried I might say or do something to you during the show. Hey, no offense, but I barely know who you are. I'm from Michigan. Please don't worry -- we're gonna get along just fine!" You seemed relieved, then leaned in and said to me, "I just didn't want any trouble out there and I just wanted to make sure that, you know, you and I got along. That you weren't going to pick on me for something ridiculous." "Pick on" you? I thought, where are we, in 3rd grade? I was struck by how you, a self-described tough guy from Queens, seemed like such a fraidey-cat. You and I went on to do the show. Nothing untoward happened between us. I didn't pull on your hair, didn't put gum on your seat. "What a wuss," was all I remember thinking as I left the set. And now, here we are in 2015 and, like many other angry white guys, you are frightened by a bogeyman who is out to get you. That bogeyman, in your mind, are all Muslims. Not just the ones who have killed, but ALL MUSLIMS. Fortunately, Donald, you and your supporters no longer look like what America actually is today. We are not a country of angry white guys. Here's a statistic that is going to make your hair spin: Eighty-one percent of the electorate who will pick the president next year are either female, people of color, or young people between the ages of 18 and 35. In other words, not you. And not the people who want you leading their country. So, in desperation and insanity, you call for a ban on all Muslims entering this country. I was raised to believe that we are all each other's brother and sister, regardless of race, creed or color. That means if you want to ban Muslims, you are first going to have to ban me. And everyone else. We are all Muslim. Just as we are all Mexican, we are all Catholic and Jewish and white and black and every shade in between. We are all children of God (or nature or whatever you believe in), part of the human family, and nothing you say or do can change that fact one iota. If you don't like living by these American rules, then you need to go to the time-out room in any one of your Towers, sit there, and think about what you've said. And then leave the rest of us alone so we can elect a real president who is both compassionate and strong -- at least strong enough not to be all whiny and scared of some guy in a ballcap from Michigan sitting next to him on a talk show couch. You're not so tough, Donny, and I'm glad I got to see the real you up close and personal all those years ago. We are all Muslim. Deal with it. All my best, Michael Moore P.S. I'm asking everyone who reads this letter to go here (http://michaelmoore.com/weareallmuslim), and sign the following statement: "WE ARE ALL MUSLIM" -- and then post a photo of yourself holding a homemade sign saying "WE ARE ALL MUSLIM" on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram using the hashtag #WeAreAllMuslim. I will post all the photos on my site and send them to you, Mr. Trump. Feel free to join us. P.P.S. - To sign my statement for #WeAreAllMuslim, go here on my website: http://michaelmoore.com/weareallmuslim" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) I didn't read the letter, it's too long. They're all a bunch of corporate douche bags that see people as less than pawns in their game of bullshit. I used to pick the lesser of 2 evils and vote for the one I thought was the lesser scum, but this time I might vote libertarian for the first time. Edited December 18, 2015 by mattsk8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 This is the key part, Donald shaking in his boots about Michael Moore going on a talk show where they were both guests: 9 minutes ago, Burn-E said: "I just didn't want any trouble out there and I just wanted to make sure that, you know, you and I got along. That you weren't going to pick on me for something ridiculous." Trump is all bluster and no bite. Typical New York fat cat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 13 minutes ago, Burn-E said: Trump is all bluster and no bite. Typical New York fat cat. I agree, you could see in The Apprentice shows that he was just shock and awe rather than "make an intelligent decision"; when the rubber meets the road he's all about the ratings. The problem would be when he did something to completely piss a bunch of foreign nations off just so he could please his "fans". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge_Brownie Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 42 minutes ago, mattsk8 said: I used to pick the lesser of 2 evils and vote for the one I thought was the lesser scum, but this time I might just throw it away and vote libertarian for the first time. You may be able to have some influence on the lesser of those evils by voting in your state's primary/caucus. It's still good to do, even if you don't plan on voting for that person in the primary. Then you should still vote third party. A way we can help encourage people to do that is by not referring to it as a wasted vote. At this stage, we don't even need a win, we just need enough votes consistently so that the news will start covering the third party the way they do the other two. 35 minutes ago, Burn-E said: This is the key part, Donald shaking in his boots about Michael Moore going on a talk show where they were both guests: It seems to easy for Moore's retelling of that to have been spun, or perhaps even originally miss-perceived. Like the producer summarizes Donald's concern incorrectly, and Trump's own words to Moore may have been closer to 'I just hoped we weren't going to pick on some mundane detail, or a twisted version of something I've said'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I would agree with you Alden that it's hearsay but it's too good for someone not to fact check. Within a few days I wouldn't be surprised if there was an article by someone who talked to the Producer of Roseanne's talk show at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 2 hours ago, Fudge_Brownie said: You may be able to have some influence on the lesser of those evils by voting in your state's primary/caucus. It's still good to do, even if you don't plan on voting for that person in the primary. Then you should still vote third party. A way we can help encourage people to do that is by not referring to it as a wasted vote. At this stage, we don't even need a win, we just need enough votes consistently so that the news will start covering the third party the way they do the other two. Fixed and very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 debate should be good tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikS Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 2 hours ago, Kevin. said: debate should be good tonight Yeah, won't need my back medicine to fall asleep tonight ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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