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4 hours ago, mattsk8 said:

I would actually be OK with that as long as the money went to get us out of debt and these greedy scumbags wouldn't be padding their (and all their corporate shitbag buddies) pockets with it instead. Also not a fan of handing it out to dead beats (on either end of the societal spectrum). Issue is that I don't trust a single one of them, I honestly believe at this stage in the game we're doomed to reap what we / they have sowed, and it won't be pretty. Shit is coming, and it's going to fall hard IMHO. The truly crappy thing is that it's us who will suffer (for now), not them. I blame greedy politicians and people like Kevin that aren't smart enough to do simple math, or differentiate reality from fiction anymore.

I do share the same feeling. I'm all for increase tax if it is being put to good use. 

1. Child education (K12)

2. Infrastructure (street/bridge/railroad)

3. Healthcare

4. Invest in sector to be less dependent on finite resources from other countries.

5. Build a wall to isolate Texas/California/Florida from the rest of United States.

10 minutes ago, Kevin. said:

and you think that Bernie would accept corrupt politians padding their wallets? Must I remind you who he is again? :biggrin:

He is a politician. Never say never

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39 minutes ago, Kevin. said:

and you think that Bernie would accept corrupt politians padding their wallets? Must I remind you who he is again? :biggrin:

Who is he?

31 minutes ago, theForgottenone said:

I do share the same feeling. I'm all for increase tax if it is being put to good use. 

1. Child education (K12)

2. Infrastructure (street/bridge/railroad)

3. Healthcare

4. Invest in sector to be less dependent on finite resources from other countries.

5. Build a wall to isolate Texas/California/Florida from the rest of United States.

He is a politician. Never say never

Thing is, here is my take on raising taxes to fund the points you brought up...

1. Money is already there, just piss-poor management / misuse of funds.

2. Money is already there... shady distribution.

3. WAY TOO MUCH MONEY HERE already, insanely shady distribution.

4. Refine / redefine our retarded trade rules.

5. No walls needed, we need to start enforcing the laws that are already in place, we could begin by not allowing illegals to vote.

Now back to #4... in addition to redefining our idiotic trade laws... if we raised taxes and put 100% of that money towards our debt, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT we didn't add new retarded government programs that simply tug on the heart strings of the naive and ignorant masses while padding the pockets of shitbags... we wouldn't be dependent on anyone because that would alleviate / eliminate the national deficit. We also need to crack down on big banks and corporations that will give any idiot a loan, but have seemingly zero culpability when it comes to collecting on something they knew was probably doomed right from the get-go. I'm all for instituting something like the "7 year jubilee" rule (old Jewish rule, look it up); no one would be quick to loan money under those circumstances, and debt is what's ruining this nation (well... debt, corruption, and a massive lack of morality).

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16 hours ago, Kevin. said:

take a look at his record, he is not a normal politician by any means

 

oh, and you forgot to wall off Alabama, Gerorgia, and South Carolina lolololol

That would be awesome.  Then when all the liberal pussies need protection we can look over the wall and grin.

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18 hours ago, Kevin. said:

take a look at his record, he is not a normal politician by any means

You've bought into the hype.  He's just like a typical politician only he's focusing on a particular type of donor.  Sanders and Huey Long have a great deal in common.

It's funny how Sanders says people shouldn't take advantage of deductions in order to reduce their tax burden and yet he happily does so for his own family.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/434194/bernie-sanders-tax-returns-reveal-hypocrisy

Then again, maybe Sanders is a highly impolitic person, which may not be a good thing at all Kevin:

http://lansingcitypulse.com/article-12189-the-trouble-with-bernie.html

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So we have anger management issue for both side of the party for potus candidate. Exception is trump acting more like a 3rd grader and sanders is an adult anger issue. 

Clinton is a lying straight to your face witch.

Cruz, well what does he offer since I haven't figure out yet.

sound like we have a great selection here y'all.

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41 minutes ago, theForgottenone said:

 

Cruz, well what does he offer since I haven't figure out yet.

 

Cruz is a well educated, morality driven, traditionalist, ideologue. But he's also the only non-white guy in the group.

From his wiki page: " I'm Cuban, Irish, and Italian, and yet somehow I ended up Southern Baptist "

He is without a doubt the smartest person in the room when he, Hillary, Bernie, the Donald and John are all together.  That doesn't mean he's a great choice though. They all scare me, including Kasich.

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20 minutes ago, Burn-E said:

Cruz is a well educated, morality driven, traditionalist, ideologue. But he's also the only non-white guy in the group.

From his wiki page: " I'm Cuban, Irish, and Italian, and yet somehow I ended up Southern Baptist "

He is without a doubt the smartest person in the room when he, Hillary, Bernie, the Donald and John are all together.  That doesn't mean he's a great choice though. They all scare me, including Kasich.

Well, Kasich ain't going anywhere. 

We all know who are the four leading candidates or most likely to be nominated by their respective party.

In reality, we are screwed. For all the Obama haters, he is the right choice and a good one for the last 8 years 😀

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1 hour ago, Burn-E said:

Cruz is a well educated, morality driven, traditionalist, ideologue. But he's also the only non-white guy in the group.

From his wiki page: " I'm Cuban, Irish, and Italian, and yet somehow I ended up Southern Baptist "

He is without a doubt the smartest person in the room when he, Hillary, Bernie, the Donald and John are all together.  That doesn't mean he's a great choice though. They all scare me, including Kasich.

 

Cruz has said some really really bigoted shit

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9 minutes ago, Kevin. said:

 

Cruz has said some really really bigoted shit

Such as? I hear a lot of false propaganda brought on by leftwing libtards that try to spin his words simply because they know if they actually admit the real reason they don't like him that they're actually the bigots; but I've never seen any proof of any of it.

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On 4/16/2016 at 1:52 PM, Kevin. said:

 

I certainly don't embrace all liberal views, I would call myself more to the center left

Oh, OK.  LOL.   Center is on the other side of the earth from where you think it is.  

6 hours ago, mattsk8 said:

Such as? I hear a lot of false propaganda brought on by leftwing libtards that try to spin his words simply because they know if they actually admit the real reason they don't like him that they're actually the bigots; but I've never seen any proof of any of it.

It was whatever he read that was on some biased news site he frequents or on some bullshit meme that was on facebook.   All of the popular far left news sites do an incredible job of misquoting, taking things out of context or straight up making shit up. By popular I mean the same old links people put on facebook.

If you have your own opinions/beliefs it automatically makes you racist, bigoted, homophobic and everything else they throw around....

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