gmsgltr Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Excited to learn more about these turbos and quality - this is kinugawa right? What is your opinion on the assembly? Can't want to hear driving impressions too! It will be hard to compare though considering your car weighs probably 1,500lbs less than ours haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro fandango Posted April 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Excited to learn more about these turbos and quality - this is kinugawa right? What is your opinion on the assembly? Can't want to hear driving impressions too! It will be hard to compare though considering your car weighs probably 1,500lbs less than ours haha it is Kinugawa, but i'm using a Volvo chra. The Kinugawa compressor wheel & housing are very good quality & all went together very well. The 11blade turbine wheel i was less impressed with, looked like they'd attacked it with an angle grinder to balance it (& took alot of metal off to do it). I'm afraid this turbo is going to have to wait for the next engine so going to be a while yet, not a feeling the standard rods won't like it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Volvo Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Stock motor can handle it. Been running 25psi on my 19T with a lean AFR. Bad tuning blows motors up(which is why these motors have a bad rep) not turbos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinitlarge Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 There may be 2 problems with the BOV. Its only a single piston, if you are still using the MAF, You will have idle problems. The second problem is only something I read As far as the install was concerned the whole job took less than a couple of hours. The only hitch came about as a result of Kinugawa’s uprated CBV, Compressor Bypass Valve, which is now a larger chunky looking unit and prevents the turbo from seating correctly. Not a hard fix, just swapped it with the 19t unit. Ive got the 20t Kinugawa with the same BOV, I also bought a blanking plate with the turbo. After noticing it was only a single piston, I removed the BOV and fitted the blanking plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsgltr Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Avinitlarge What do you think of the 20t and what motor, trans And car is it on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro fandango Posted April 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Stock motor can handle it. Been running 25psi on my 19T with a lean AFR. Bad tuning blows motors up(which is why these motors have a bad rep) not turbos. i've already got the capability to have stepped boost levels to save the rods via the AVC-R, but tbh i don't want the car to drive that way. I'm hoping to have the boost done via the actuator so better being safe than sorry There may be 2 problems with the BOV. Its only a single piston, if you are still using the MAF, You will have idle problems. The second problem is only something I read As far as the install was concerned the whole job took less than a couple of hours. The only hitch came about as a result of Kinugawa’s uprated CBV, Compressor Bypass Valve, which is now a larger chunky looking unit and prevents the turbo from seating correctly. Not a hard fix, just swapped it with the 19t unit. Ive got the 20t Kinugawa with the same BOV, I also bought a blanking plate with the turbo. After noticing it was only a single piston, I removed the BOV and fitted the blanking plate ah thanks, didn't even think whether it was single or double. As it was listed for Volvo i assumed it'd be the correct type (blast), I've got a Forge blanking plate so can use that. The annoying part is i could of bought the actuator i want instead of wasting it on this bov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinitlarge Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Avinitlarge What do you think of the 20t and what motor, trans And car is it on? Its not fitted yet, Was looking an article yesterday about a 20t on a Volvo. http://ovlov94blog.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/kinugawa-td04hl-20t-install/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro fandango Posted April 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Its not fitted yet, Was looking an article yesterday about a 20t on a Volvo. http://ovlov94blog.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/kinugawa-td04hl-20t-install/ he seems happy with it. Surprised how different it sounds to a 19t considering theirs not much difference physically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsgltr Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Anybody have 20t updates? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
850wagonT5 Posted April 25, 2014 Report Share Posted April 25, 2014 I'm also wondering how different the 19T and 20T's are. I was a little paranoid about fitting a 19T "rodbender." I often run boost control straight off the wastegate actuator, and the 19T seems to come on a little too hot unless you have a tune which lets the factory TCV bring the boost in a little more gradually. I had a T3/T04E before so I don't mind a slower boost onset. It saves rods AND tires that way. If the 20T does come on a little bit slower than the 19T, I will likely go with the Kunigawa 20T wheel and housing when the time comes to upgrade the stock turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffmeltdown Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Any updates on the 20T? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsgltr Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Wish I could read more impressions on this turbo or share my own I have mine but haven't installed it Billet 11blade 20t 9blade turbine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiles855R Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Jason (FrankenMoose) just finished his build with 20T, once the break in period is over he might be some help. He previously had a billet 19t with 11 blade turbine, then his engine killed itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob82pigdog Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 As someone who is thinking about buying an ARD 19T with billet spool control wheel for my 98 T5 all this 20T talk has me intrigued. So is the consensus that stock rods can handle this turbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsgltr Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Yes with proper tuning and supporting mods If you already have the desirable angle flanged exhaust housing you can buy the 20t all done up for $600 direct from kinugawa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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