Volvo5.0 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 At least they capitalized your name for your account... mine is all lower case Fixed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow95 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I'm sorry, but if you consider information straight from VIDA specific to the application vs some random third party lexus hearsay to be a tie... you probably shouldn't be touching head bolts. Dude, it would be so much nicer if you wouldnt follow up solid advice with a douchey comment. He wants outside advice, dont get mad because he doesnt take yours as gospel the minute he reads it. Its not personal against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piston Slapper Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I wasn't taking it personally and I don't give a damn whether he takes my advice or not, I was just saying that information from VIDA isn't on par with what someone heard from a Lexus tech. If we were talking about a Lexus that would be a different story. Fixed... Huh? I meant in VIDA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LloydDobler Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 This is why they switched to angle torque by the way, it stretches the bolt a known amount based on the thread pitch regardless of the friction on it. The preliminary torques are low enough that it doesn't affect it a huge amount, and just ensure the parts are seated before the final force is applied. So in general, if you're angle torqueing the bolts it doesn't matter if they're lubed or not. But lube makes the process smoother and also prevents corrosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookforjoe Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 I dunk them in motor oil, then transfer them upright to a clean container, so that most of the oil can drain off. Usually 15 min or more to make sure there is just a light coat, not dripping oil when inserted into through head/ into block bolt hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpin Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 ...you probably shouldn't be touching head bolts. I am open minded and listen to everyone. I don't need banter like that. If you cant keep it together get the hell off my thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piston Slapper Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Way to get bent out of shape over nothing... I was just trying to illustrate that 'something I heard from some Lexus guy' does not equal VIDA and that you should know that. It wasn't intended as any kind of personal insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispy_T Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Deimos, let it go. The point of the thread was not to put down anyone who would take advice from a Lexus mechanic on Volvo engines, but to discuss, and hopefully learn whether or not one should lube head bolts. The way you stated that was absolutely insulting. Regardless of the engine, you ALWAYS lubricate the threads on TTY head bolts. It prevents seizure and helps in smoothly torquing the bolts properly. I haven't seen an engine yet with TTY bolts that doesn't specify lubricating the head bolts. Live and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piston Slapper Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 You're right, that's not what this thread is about. I apologize for going off topic. I haven't seen an engine yet with TTY bolts that doesn't specify lubricating the head bolts. Live and learn. I had a 06 S40 with a B5244S7 profiled when I looked, it did not specify lubrication for head bolts. It does specify lube for 850s, as 5.0 linked. However, I checked and noticed the current Volvo head bolts themselves do not come dry, they've got something kinda sticky on them and the techs here shove them in a dried out block just like that. Guess Volvo removed the step because they made them pre-lubed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAYWALKER Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 You're right, that's not what this thread is about. I apologize for going off topic. I had a 06 S40 with a B5244S7 profiled when I looked, it did not specify lubrication for head bolts. It does specify lube for 850s, as 5.0 linked. However, I checked and noticed the current Volvo head bolts themselves do not come dry, they've got something kinda sticky on them and the techs here shove them in a dried out block just like that. Guess Volvo removed the step because they made them pre-lubed.or to keep them from rustingYou're right, that's not what this thread is about. I apologize for going off topic. I had a 06 S40 with a B5244S7 profiled when I looked, it did not specify lubrication for head bolts. It does specify lube for 850s, as 5.0 linked. However, I checked and noticed the current Volvo head bolts themselves do not come dry, they've got something kinda sticky on them and the techs here shove them in a dried out block just like that. Guess Volvo removed the step because they made them pre-lubed.or to keep them from rusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricF Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 or to keep them from rusting or to keep them from rusting +1, most head bolts for these cars I've ordered have been lightly coated in oil. Probably very ferrous and ready to rust as soon as you look at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgally Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I'd say lube em. Horsepower Tv toured the ARP factory and this topic was covered at length. They suggest to lube and they make a special lubricant specifically for that. They also did a side by side comparison between lubed and not lubed and illustrated how you can get false torque readings without. Anyway my two cents. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpin Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Lube them is the vote. Even ARP sells grease specifically for torquing their bolts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piston Slapper Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 ARP isn't torque to yield... they're not stretch bolts like OEM... what they use is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Riker Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Which is why I'm going to ask... why not go with ARP head studs and be one with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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