Kevin. Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Anyone want a pair of KLH Model 17s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Anyone want a pair of KLH Model 17s? Thought you were gonna pm me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v4lve Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 My father's setup that never gets used, unfortunately. looks like a great vintage set-up, I don't quite have the eye to identify a lot of the equipment but looks pretty serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) I've been busy. Picked up another Pioneer SX-950 receiver on eBay for $300+$50 shipping. When it showed up the wood case was cracked, and it was obvious USPS dropped it. Made the insurance claim and got a refund for $300, so I ended up with it for $50 . Need to make a new case but it works really well, using it in my shop. Made a tower version of the speakers I posted here earlier, still need to veneer the cabinets. These sound absolutely incredible for the money, also got the kit published... http://meniscusaudio.com/blues-bare-bones-each-p-1429.html Working on these too. It's a 2 way speaker that uses a 10" Eminence pro audio woofer, with a Eminence compression tweeter that mounts to the back of the woofer and plays through the dust cover of the woofer. As far as how they sound, the detail from them is incredible and they're insanely loud (already had a rough cabinet with them in it so I could get them dialed in). They have decent bass but IMO a sub would definitely complete the sound. First I made the frames, then clamped layer after layer of 1/8" Baltic Birch for the curved sides. I used teak for the front baffle, and I plan on spraying the rest of the cabinets blue. Bottom hole in the cabinet is for the port. Edited October 27, 2014 by mattsk8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 would you make and sell cabinets/speakers to people on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 would you make and sell cabinets/speakers to people on here? Definitely depends on what you'd want, but yeah. I wish someone here lived closer to Grand Rapids MI so I could get some legit feedback on how things look and sound, I'd feel a lot better about it at that point. One thing I've learned over the years is that sound is def subjective, some like bright speakers, some like more bass, some like more mids... etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Definitely depends on what you'd want, but yeah. I wish someone here lived closer to Grand Rapids MI so I could get some legit feedback on how things look and sound, I'd feel a lot better about it at that point. One thing I've learned over the years is that sound is def subjective, some like bright speakers, some like more bass, some like more mids... etc. bookshelf speakers is what I would be looking at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tightmopedman9 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I've been thinking about a pair of Fostex FE166En 6.5" full range drivers in a backloaded horn enclosure. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I've been thinking about a pair of Fostex FE166En 6.5" full range drivers in a backloaded horn enclosure. Any thoughts? I've never heard that Fostex driver (that I remember), but I'm not a huge fan of full range drivers. Most of the time when I hear full range speakers, what I hear is something that sounds amazing at low volume, but falls apart when you turn it up. But, like I said, I've never heard that particular driver before; I would be extremely curious to hear those. Especially in that horn loaded cabinet, which would reinforce the bass a lot. Those Fostex drivers have an F3 of 53hz; if I'm reading the Madisound specs right they're claiming 22hz in that horn loaded cabinet... which is super low and would be amazing if its true. I would be worried about high volumes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tightmopedman9 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I've never heard that Fostex driver (that I remember), but I'm not a huge fan of full range drivers. Most of the time when I hear full range speakers, what I hear is something that sounds amazing at low volume, but falls apart when you turn it up. But, like I said, I've never heard that particular driver before; I would be extremely curious to hear those. Especially in that horn loaded cabinet, which would reinforce the bass a lot. Those Fostex drivers have an F3 of 53hz; if I'm reading the Madisound specs right they're claiming 22hz in that horn loaded cabinet... which is super low and would be amazing if its true. I would be worried about high volumes though. Do you have experience with anything in the same price range ($160 for the drivers and ~$110 for the wood) that you would recommend? My Physics professor in college had these same drivers and cabinet in his office, we once had a listening session with his 120W class A tube amp (a winter only setup ) and I was blown away. Granted this was only at a moderate volume, I don't need anything super loud myself, but it would be nice to have the option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Do you have experience with anything in the same price range ($160 for the drivers and ~$110 for the wood) that you would recommend? My Physics professor in college had these same drivers and cabinet in his office, we once had a listening session with his 120W class A tube amp (a winter only setup ) and I was blown away. Granted this was only at a moderate volume, I don't need anything super loud myself, but it would be nice to have the option. What amp or receiver do plan on using to drive them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tightmopedman9 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 I was thinking about a class AB (transistor). I had a really good DIY amplifier website bookmarked a while ago, but can't find it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Those Fostex actually would probably be a good fit for an amp like that, or an amp like this...http://www.parts-express.com/lepai-lp7498e-200w-class-d-digital-amplifier-with-bluetooth-and-power-supply--310-298. I heard that amp and was fairly impressed for the size and money. Using amps like those, you wont have a lot of power on reserve so efficient speakers would be what i looked for and those Fostex speakers had a good sensitivity rating. It wont be super loud by any stretch, but it would def sound great for the money, plus it would be a fun build if you have the tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 ..... Did a little digging for you. I heard the Mark Audio Alpair 7.3 at a full range "shoot out/demo" we did at a show last August. We basically demo'd 10 pair of 4" full range drivers and the Mark Audio Alpair 7 won hands down. 2nd place was a pair of Dayton Audio full range but it wasn't a close 2nd at all, those Mark Audios sounded incredible. So, based on that I did some research, and IMO, this is the route I'd go... It would add $50 to the cost of the drivers, but I think you might save that in wood for the cabinets because these aren't horn loaded cabinets (HL cabinets use a LOT of wood). These aren't quite as sensitive as those Fostex, but I think that wouldn't matter so much because they're still respectable in the sensitivity (basically just turn it up a little louder )... 2 links to 2 different build threads. The first link is from the original designer of these, Jim Griffin who has done some very nice designs. The 2nd link is just another guy who built them but I think his cabinet looks sharp. Also, I think the 2nd guy actually built these to replace the Fostex kit you were looking at and he said is sounds a lot better. http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-range/137585-mark-audio-alpair-10-mltl-design.html http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=103802.0 These are the speakers you would use; they aren't the Alpair 7 that I heard, they're the next size up. Their site says it's a 4", but it's actually a 5" driver. You can get it with a gold or a gray cone... http://meniscusaudio.com/mark-audio-alpair-gray-p-960.html Regarding amps... I get it if you want to build an amp for the fun of it, but if saving some coin is the main reason, I'd source a circa 1990 2 channel receiver on CL or eBay (avoid the Dolby prologic ones, try to find a simple stereo receiver); you can find a decent Denon, Kenwood, or something like that for less than $100 generally. That Lepai amp I linked is nice, but a decent receiver will have more power. I'd look for 85w/ch and up, unless you find an old solid state, silver face receiver, then 35w/ch+ will work well. For connecting an iPod, phone or something like that, you can find decent BT receivers that'll plug into the aux on the back of the stereo for around $35 that work pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 But yea, If I could get a set of bookshelf speakers with cherry wood cabinets that would be pretty epic....love cherry wood cabinets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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