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Pedestrian A Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Any codes printed on the last invoice? I really want to see what codes they are. Good luck with the Lemon Law. All I know that is something protecting car owners. I wish there is something like that in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmcrrc Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Sorry about all your problems Michael, and I know how frustrating it has been. Based on your description it sounds like a ETM problem. When you select Advanced it increases the throttle response and puts the transmission in "Sport". The Dealer needs to put a data logger on the car and drive it. Why that has not been done is another wonder!!Doug HI was thinking the same thing when I read the post for the MSD Dash Hawk; I assumed the dealer had done some data logging with it before? Figured you could use one to see whats what when it goes ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD on you; since it never seems to do it to them enough to diagnose it. perhaps MSD would be willing to float you one to see if it can fix what the dealer can not; would be good advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm2000541568908310 Posted April 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Sorry about all your problems Michael, and I know how frustrating it has been. Based on your description it sounds like a ETM problem. When you select Advanced it increases the throttle response and puts the transmission in "Sport". The Dealer needs to put a data logger on the car and drive it. Why that has not been done is another wonder!!Doug HI know it is never driven unless I ask my sales man to do it. They think road test means driving throught the car wash in the back. Why do I have to tell them their job? My service writter at Buick used to get in the car with me, when I brough it in. He also like to see the 3.8L bouce off the rev limiter in about 17 seconds. -mk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm2000541568908310 Posted April 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Any codes printed on the last invoice? I really want to see what codes they are. Good luck with the Lemon Law. All I know that is something protecting car owners. I wish there is something like that in Canada. :angry: Saw Nice Lady & an actual Swede at the joint today, who are in direct contact with the president of cars in Oslo. They now believe it is the CEM, but need to "try a few things first" before Volvo says they can change it. If it is in fact the CEM - they allege it can be FedExed overnight & in the next day. Don't everyone hold your breath at once, the loss of CO2 might lead to global cooling. They say they never saw it happen on these cars before. -mk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defgh1 Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Saw Nice Lady & an actual Swede at the joint today, who are in direct contact with the president of cars in Oslo. They now believe it is the CEM, but need to "try a few things first" before Volvo says they can change it. If it is in fact the CEM - they allege it can be FedExed overnight & in the next day. Don't everyone hold your breath at once, the loss of CO2 might lead to global cooling. They say they never saw it happen on these cars before. -mkDon't you just love being the Pioneer! :angry: Doug H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm2000541568908310 Posted April 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Don't You just love being the Pioneer! :angry: Doug H When it is all over I will... For my aggravation - I am going to be negotiating for an extended warranty. I haven't decided how much of a discount I want, but the car already satisfies the criteria for SC lemon law. I might go with 'I won't Lemon Law it if you give me to 100,000 miles'. BTW it was very cute seeing their sales girl checking out the SKY. -mk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needsdecaf Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 When it is all over I will... For my aggravation - I am going to be negotiating for an extended warranty. I haven't decided how much of a discount I want, but the car already satisfies the criteria for SC lemon law. I might go with 'I won't Lemon Law it if you give me to 100,000 miles'. BTW it was very cute seeing their sales girl checking out the SKY. -mkTrying to recruit another for your harem, Michael? :angry: Glad to hear that you may be closing in on a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm2000541568908310 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Trying to recruit another for your harem, Michael? Glad to hear that you may be closing in on a solution.Nah, too skinny, I like'em plush. -mk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmcrrc Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Nah, too skinny, I like'em plush. -mkSame hereWTF is a CEM? Central Electronics Module? What does that have to do with the engine? the only reference I have seen is to headlights, alarm ect?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needsdecaf Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Same hereWTF is a CEM? Central Electronics Module? What does that have to do with the engine? the only reference I have seen is to headlights, alarm ect??Yes.CEM is the electronic brain. Think of it as Oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm2000541568908310 Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Don't you just love being the Pioneer! Doug HI have the R back, running at a 1/4 tank. I will not be putting in more than 1/2 tank for a while to prove the car. The sadle tank was a factor, we have a new fuel pump...again. Let's hope this ends the ordeal, only 8 weeks later. -mk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishBloke Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I have the R back, running at a 1/4 tank. I will not be putting in more than 1/2 tank for a while to prove the car. The sadle tank was a factor, we have a new fuel pump...again. Let's hope this ends the ordeal, only 8 weeks later. -mkGood Luck - did they end up changing the CEM or not? Any luck with forcing a warranty extension?Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pm2000541568908310 Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Good Luck - did they end up changing the CEM or not? Any luck with forcing a warranty extension?ChrisIt was not the ECM. I hate to say this but... I can't discuss the resolution. I am ok with the outcome. -mk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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