Joe_m Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I am due for a trans fluid replacement (120K miles). I am likely to just do a fluid replacement, not a flush. I figure the fluid in the torque converter will mix with the new fluid and be mostly fresh fluid in the end. - Is it true that there is no trans filter? - Can I safely go to a chain like Pep Boys (they claim to use Pennzoil), coupon in hand, and have them change my fluid or is this something best left to a more trusted shop with specific fluids? - And does the Volvo have any special trans fluids needs? For example, I learned the hard way that my car doesn't like Bosch Platinum +4's. Any similar 'gotchas' for the trans?Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_dlugi_* Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I am due for a trans fluid replacement (120K miles). I am likely to just do a fluid replacement, not a flush. I figure the fluid in the torque converter will mix with the new fluid and be mostly fresh fluid in the end. - Is it true that there is no trans filter? - Can I safely go to a chain like Pep Boys (they claim to use Pennzoil), coupon in hand, and have them change my fluid or is this something best left to a more trusted shop with specific fluids? - And does the Volvo have any special trans fluids needs? For example, I learned the hard way that my car doesn't like Bosch Platinum +4's. Any similar 'gotchas' for the trans?Thanks.←check you manualnew auto transm. AW55-50 require volvo fluid, quite expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jda2000 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 your year model requires synthetic ATF, it doesn't have to be volvo's brand.Most places charge about $150-$200 for a synthetic tranny flush.Do it right, flush the tranny, or you'll just drain a 1/3 of fluid the other way and contaminate the new fluid.Better yet, do it yourself. It's easy, and you'll feel much better knowing you did it right and saved a bundle . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 t5 wagon Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I am due for a trans fluid replacement (120K miles). I am likely to just do a fluid replacement, not a flush. I figure the fluid in the torque converter will mix with the new fluid and be mostly fresh fluid in the end. - Is it true that there is no trans filter? - Can I safely go to a chain like Pep Boys (they claim to use Pennzoil), coupon in hand, and have them change my fluid or is this something best left to a more trusted shop with specific fluids? - And does the Volvo have any special trans fluids needs? For example, I learned the hard way that my car doesn't like Bosch Platinum +4's. Any similar 'gotchas' for the trans?Thanks.←bay 13 goto reapairs/maint. link on the left ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_m Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I am embarassed to admit it, but on the 2000, I can't even find the dipstick for the tranny. Rich verified that it is there and more visible from below on the 2000. I guess that means I need to remove some bodywork underneath? I have been holding out for better weather to get under the car.Can someone who's done their own tranny fluid flush on the 2000 attest to how hard it is? And does anybody have details the plastic plug and tubing referred to in the FAQ (sizes, etc. so that I can pick it up)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceenit Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I've got a 98 S70, there must have been some changes in the Tranny between '98 and '00, as mine calls for Dextron III (mine does not call for synthetic). Validate in your owners manual, or call up to Volvo and their service dept will tell you over the phone. Not sure what else is different, but on the '98 it is a simple hose to detach from the radiator, attach a flush hose to a catch can, and run the engine till two quarts flows, out....replace the two quarts, and run the engine again....do this about 5 times until the fluid looks clean.There have been some good recent threads with detailed directions and pictures. If you do a search on Tranny, you will find them. IPD sells a little kit for $12 with includes the drain hose and a new clip for the hose going to your radiator.I haven't checked the cost at any local 'quick lube' spots, but I may check it out just for pricing if they offer Dextron III at a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay13 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 If you have an AW55-50sn transmission you need the Volvo synthetic trans fluid, The specs of it are JW 3309, so if Mobil 1, redline D4 meets those specs you could use their fluid.Just because you have a 2000 doesn't mean you have a AW55-50sn trans, you could also have a AW50-42 that requires Dexron III, or a manual trans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 If you have an AW55-50sn transmission you need the Volvo synthetic trans fluid, The specs of it are JW 3309, so if Mobil 1, redline D4 meets those specs you could use their fluid.Just because you have a 2000 doesn't mean you have a AW55-50sn trans, you could also have a AW50-42 that requires Dexron III, or a manual trans.←There was big discussion of this on swedespeed in the R forum I believe, it was said that all of the said companies meet the volvo requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay13 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I just found out that the spec on the fluid was JW 3309, which is also the spec for the new V8s six speed auto trans. I haven't gone to mobil or redline to see if their fluid meets the JW 3309 specs. (What ever that is) I have known people to put Mobil one in there and have had no problem, and I have known people to put dexron III in there and the car wouldn't get out of it's own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_m Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Thanks, guys. Where would the trans number be listed? Would it be on a label under the hood? Door jamb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_m Posted March 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 There have been some good recent threads with detailed directions and pictures. If you do a search on Tranny, you will find them. IPD sells a little kit for $12 with includes the drain hose and a new clip for the hose going to your radiator.←I just checked-out IPD. Apparently the trans flush kit only covers the 98 and earlier S70. Anybody done the flush on a 2000 who can comment? (Hints on where to get the hosing and sizes, difficulty-- heck, even shed some light on why I can't find the dipstick!)Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_keefus_* Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Just went to the Mobil website. They make a specific JWS-3309 ATF that lists the Volvo AW-55-50 as one of the applications. Didn't say whether it was synthetic or not.BTW, I have had Mobil 1 synthetic ATF in the wife's 2001 V70 XC for almost two years with no issues. Due for another flush next month, maybe I'll try to get some of the Mobil 3309 fluid....keefusRichmond, VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flush for newer cars Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 the way I did it for my 1999 S80 T6 and wife's 2001 V70 XC was to get about 4' of 3/4 ID heater hose. Disconnect the upper tranny cooler line from the rad. Attach the hose to the plastic collar on the upper connection to the radiator (you will need to stretch the hose a bit). Have a helper run the engine for about 30 seconds while you stick the end of the hose in a calibrated container (empty coolant jug works good). Pour the same amount of new fluid into the tranny fill hole (use a funnel with a tube, IPD sells 'em). Continue this process for around 10 quarts of fluid, then re-connect the upper line, and your are done. Takes 30 minutes tops.keefus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLS Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Mobil 1 ATF IS a Dexron-III ATF-----"Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF is recommended for use in modern high performance automobiles, SUV's, SUT's, vans and other light trucks requiring Dexron III and Ford Mercon performance levels."http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS...yntheticATF.aspMobil 3309 ATF is a conventional (non-synthetic) that is rated for Volvo JWS3309, and not Dexron-III.Redline D4 ATF is not rated, but said by Redline to be suitable for the Volvo JWS3309 or other newer Volvo spec.If a Dexron-III ATF works in one transmission calling for JWS3309, and not in another, synthetic base or not (Mobil 1 is synthetic base), then I suspect the difference is in the transmission, not the fluid.Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_keefus_* Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Mobil 1 ATF IS a Dexron-III ATF-----"Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF is recommended for use in modern high performance automobiles, SUV's, SUT's, vans and other light trucks requiring Dexron III and Ford Mercon performance levels."http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS...yntheticATF.aspMobil 3309 ATF is a conventional (non-synthetic) that is rated for Volvo JWS3309, and not Dexron-III.Redline D4 ATF is not rated, but said by Redline to be suitable for the Volvo JWS3309 or other newer Volvo spec.If a Dexron-III ATF works in one transmission calling for JWS3309, and not in another, synthetic base or not (Mobil 1 is synthetic base), then I suspect the difference is in the transmission, not the fluid.This is all very interesting....If you go to the Mobil website and compare the specs and physical characteristics of Mobil 1 synthetic ATF and the Mobil 3309, there is not a huge discrepancy.Again, I have been running Mobil 1 synthetic ATF in my wife's 2001 V70 XC (AW55-50 tranny) for over two years now with no issues. However, since I will be due to change ATF fluid in this car in the next month or so, I was thinking of using the Mobil 3309 instead. Even though the Mobil 1 ATF has worked fine, I would rather use an "approved" fluid this time. I suppose it depends on cost, although I may be less inclined to use Mobil 3309 if it isn't synthetic, as I prefer to not change ATF anymore frequently than I have to...Volvo fluid for AW55-50 = $16.00 per quartRedline D4 = $8.00Mobil 3309 = ????Anyone seen pricing on Mobil 3309, or know where it can be had???keefusRichmond, VA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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